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Hello and a Happy New Year.  My name is Forbes D. Gilchrist.  From what
I have read on your home page, I don't see a connection to us, but who
knows?

I have used family letters etc. to do a limited trace back to the middle
1800's.  Basically we Gilchrists are from Glasgow, but from what I can
tell there were several brothers/uncles etc. from Argylshire also.  In
Glasgow we married into the Butteries and Crawfords and were involved in
the early "pig iron" industry eventually b either owning or managing a
iron foundry in that fine city.  Eventually we forged and laid the kells
for the first iron bottomed barges or some form of sea going craft
eventually used by Napoleon in one a war of some kind.  My history is
rather fuzzy here and perhaps you have done more research into that end
of the line.  The brothers, some 4 of them, eventually ended up being
involved in the  tea and spice trade in Samoa and other east Indies
areas.  About the turn of the century my grand parents and uncle came to
the US and settled in the Buffalo area, and eventually, after my father,
the youngest of three surviving brothers, they move to Aliquippa, Pa,
near Pittsburgh where my grandfather became an accountant for J and L Steel
and the brothers all went to work as steel workers for the same
company.  There was a great uncle, Robert who settled in Vancouver BC
and married, I believe, Elise.


There you have it in a nut shell.  I know that there is more information
out there, but have not taken the time to find it.  Oh yes, I also
understand there there was a member of Her Majesties Service  whose last
name was Gilchrist in either Samoa or India  I believe that the first
name was Alexander or Andrew.  I know that there were both names
mentioned in some of the old letters that I read.

If this is useful information please let me know.

Please visit my home page at
http://www.geocities.com/capecanaveral/lab/1695
or http://www.netopia.geocities.com/forbesg

Thanks,

Forbes

Hi Steve,  my name is Don and I live in a small town in Midwestern Ontario,
Canada. It is sure nice to see someone trying to trace our roots. I have an
aunt that lives in Sudbury Ontario, Canada who has been for many years now
doing the same thing, so I know just how much work it really is.  

From what we have learned is that the Gilchrist's ( Ogylvie clan ) came from
Scotland and and settled in Midwestern Ontario near a small town called
Paisley. Over the years we migrated onto the Manitoulin Island when the
need for lumber was large and the government opened up the Manitoulin to
the lumber industry. Obviously there is a lot more detail to it all but
like I said my aunt has the family tree with her. If there is more I can
get for you, please let me know and I will contact my aunt and have her
send me some information...... Nice chatting with you....

Don Gilchrist

           Bernard Gilchrist
            9 Murrayfield Garden                      
            Edinburgh, UK
            EH12 6DG

            22.3.97

            Dear Steve,

                       It was a pleasure to receive your letter and to
            learn that you had been in touch with Gordon and Robert.  Yes,
            I have been looking into family history but in a lighthearted
            way that does not seem worthy of the name "research".  I send
            you a copy of the result to date, for your retention.  This was
            produced (and circulated within the family) in the hope of
            pulling out more information but not a lot has resulted so far.
                   There is very little written information available
            on early clan history - of any clan - and the MacLachlans are
            much like any other clan in this respect.  It is easy to see
            that the family name, meaning no more or less than 'follower of
            Christ' could have arisen more often than once in Scottish clan
            history but it is generally believed that the Gilchrists are a
            Sept of the Clan MacLachlan.

                       Your forebears, in Rothesay, would have been very
            close to the Cowal Peninsula in which the MacLachlan lands lay,
            but at that time (1834) my ancestors would have been in Ireland
            for something like 90 years or might even have moved on to
            Manchester.  It seems unlikely that a link could be established
            between the two groups.

                       People do not seem to get interested in genealogy
            until they are in danger of becoming ancestors themselves.
            Certainly I am very new to the subject and have a lot to learn
            but continue to be very interested.  Any information I get
            which is relevant to your problem I will certainly pass on to
            you.

                       Thank you for writing; all best wishes for your
            continuing efforts.

                                Yours sincerely,

			Bernard Gilchrist
___________________________________________________________
                           GILCHRIST

                      In 1977 Robert Maxwell Gilchrist(1945-    obtained
         a copy of a marriage certificate for James Edward
         Gilchrist(1860-192X) to Margaret Parkinson at Miles Platting on
         23-12-1882.  This certificate includes the names of the
         respective fathers, James M. (probably Maxwell) Gilchrist -
         chemical manufacturer - and Joseph Parkinson - engineer.  This
         is the earliest written record obtained on the Gilchrist family
         and Robert M.G. said he was unable to trace anything earlier.
         The designation chemical manufacturer seems to indicate that
         the Gilchrist family was well established in the Manchester
         area and supports the earlier reference to the year 1860.
         A possible lead to a Gilchrist-Thomas chemical process proved
         irrelevant as it referred to a Percy Carlyle G.(1851-1916) who
         was born in Lyme Regis.  Little is known about Joseph Parkinson
         save that he may have been related to a family of Parkinsons in
         Burton-on-Trent who were sweet manufacturers and he spent his
         adult life in India building railways and designing and
         installing mill machinery and he may have died in India.
         J.E.G. is known to have had a brother John, married to Anne,
         who had children Gertrude, Madeline and John.  This family was
         living at 25 Church Street, Harpurhey, M/c in the 1920s.

                     James Edward and Margaret G., had a large 12" x
         10" family Bible, originally issued Book by Book in parts
         against a monthly subscription and later bound.  This contains
         pages for the entry of births, marriages and deaths where
         records have been made in pencil and in ink, in 3 different
         hands, yet are fully legible.  There are 3 different groups of
         entries concerning (1) James Wilks and Isabella Lowcock who
         married in Bradford in 1844 and with them is linked only one
         entry 'Margret Wilks born 6.6.1862', (2) a list of 6
         Parkinsons, apparently children born from 1848 onwards
         including Ellen and Joseph and ending with 'Margret Parkinson'
         and her yet younger sister Annie but interestingly the birth
         date of Margret is not given, and (3) the details of the
         marriage of James Edward Gilchrist and 'Margaret Ellenea
         Parkinson' at Miles Platting in 1882, followed by the names and
         birth dates of 12 of their 13 children.

                     Dorothy W.(1906-    ) has stated that Mrs.
         Parkinson, wife of Joseph, came home to England to die and left
         her daughter 'Margret' in the care of the child's aunt, whose
         name was Wilks.  This raises the probability that all three
         references quoted from the Bible records are to the same
         person.  Joseph Parkinson presumably married a Wilks (or a
         Lowcock) and Isabella Wilks (formerly Lowcock) would have been
         the aunt involved.  At one time the Wilks may have thought of
         'Margret' as a Wilks and the stated birth date of 6.6.62 fits
         perfectly with the age of 20 years given on the Miles Platting
         wedding certificate.  M., quite properly reverted to the
         surname of Parkinson in the certificate, only modifying her
         given name to a more modern form of spelling.  The addition of
         Ellenea as a middle name after marriage may have commemorated
         her oldest sister Ellen who had died in 1863.  Margret Wilks or
         Parkinson did not enjoy the care and protection of her Aunt
         Isabella for very long as she died when her charge was only 15.
         Her last responsible act was perhaps to place Margret in
         service to some family in whom she had real faith.  All that is
         certain is that in the marriage certificate Margret, now
         Margaret, was recorded as a "housekeeper"; the address in
         Newton Heath given at the time may not have been significant.

                      Margaret Ellenea was said to be a small person but
         with considerable strength of character and quite a lot of
         experience to back it up.  The man she married was a
         comparative giant, reputedly 614" tall, with red hair; he
         possibly looked Scottish but would not have sounded so.  The
         first child, James MAXWELL G.(1883-1937) was named after a
         believed family custom for first sons, which was resumed.
         Edward Francis (1886 -died same day), Margaret Isabella (DAISY)
         (1887-198X), Sidney HARRY (1888-1978), Agnes Theodora (POPPY)
         (1890-XXXX), John Gilbert Duncan (1892-1895), RHODA May (1894-
         XXXX), Charles Joseph DONALD (1895-XXXX), HILDA Mary (1897-
         XXXX), Arthur Gordon (1899-?), Malcolm Lennox Graham (1901-?)
         and DOROTHY Ellenea (1906-    ) followed in due course but one
         further birth is unrecorded, probably because the child did not
         live to be baptized.  The family, as it grew, occupied a
         succession of houses in North Manchester, and Pilkington, Bury,
         before moving to 18 Park Grove, Levenshulme in the early 1900s.
         There the last child Dorothy was born, the parents celebrated
         their silver wedding a year later in 1907 and Margaret Ellenea
         the mother died in 191X.  During nearly all of their marriage
         the couple had retained their connection with the Church of St.
         John the Evangelist in Miles Platting where they were married
         and most of the children were baptized.

                     James Edward G., was a warehouseman at the time of
         his marriage and may have remained so employed for some years.
         He was also much involved with cinemas, joining with a partner
         to establish the first two cinemas in Manchester,
         the"Popular"at Miles Platting and the"Popular"at Failsworth.
         These were a success but he sold out to his partner and moved
         into commerce with a factory making men's braces in which he
         involved several of his children.  This carried on for some
         years but ultimately was sold also.  Politically he was very
         much a man of the people, joining the Independent Labour Party
         which was much concerned with the enjoyment of life by the
         common herd.  One of its enterprises was a cinema at Miles
         Platting which he organized and his son Harry ran, both
         projecting and introducing the films, an exercise which earned
         Harry locally the nickname of "Drama".  Father and son revered
         Keir Hardie and, one long weekend, walked from Manchester to
         Skipton and back in order to hear him speak.  On an I.L.P.
         ticket, James Edward G. was elected to represent Miles Platting
         on the Manchester City Council.  During his term he was named
         on a plaque commemorating the opening of High Street swimming
         baths (Slide xxxxxxxxx) dated 1906 and later succeeded to the
         chairmanship of the committee responsible for this pioneering
         effort.  He was a keen Freemason and in due course was
         Worshipful Master of the Zetland Lodge.  The 10-year period
         around 1910 was probably the most successful time for James
         Edward G.,but following the death of his wife in 1914 his
         fortunes appeared to decline.
EDITOR'S NOTE: Bernard's address is listed above if you wish to post a letter to him, the following links are for his first cousins, once-removed - Bob and Gordon Gilchrist.

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