Listed in 1782 Census of Rutherford Co. North Carolina; Information taken
from Automated Archives CD 136.
IMMIGRATION: Source #4 page 323, continued on page 324: "Sept. 14, 1754, Ship
Nancy, _____ Ewing, Captain, from Rotterdam, last from Cowes.--Inhabitants from
Lorraine" , among others shows: Carl Steiss; no others with a name even close to
There is a footnote to explain Lorraine:" an old province in the North-East of
France, and since the treaty of peace, at Frankfort, 1871, again became attached
to Germany. In ancient times this name was applied to the countries of Germany
and the Netherlands, northward to the mouth of the Rhine.
The date given is the date of arrival at the port at Philadelphia, as stated in
the book title.
There is also an * attached to several names, one of which is Carl Stiess, but
no information on those two pages to tell what the asterisk means.
RESIDENCE: Source #3 states: Moved to the Mammoth Cave Area of Ky after selling
his property in North Carolina March 23, 1799, after living in N.C.
for 30 years. Source #5 states: "Craven Co. So. Carolina 1763, Stice Shoals on
Little Broad River, Rutherford Co. North Carolina, 1770-1800"
BURIAL: Bowling Green Gardens Cemetery, Bowling Green, Warren county, Kentucky, available on http://findagrave.com
1. Last Will of Charles Stice, Will Book A, Page 17, Court House, Bowling
Green, Warren Co. Ky.; Signed Carl Stys, will dated 26 Feb 1801. Test:
William Phelps, Philip Jones, William Forkner. Executors are his wife Cat
2. Decendancy chart prepared by Jennifer Stice Rowe, received from Roger
Adamson of Davis Calif. by mail in 1996.
3. "Bridges to the Past", a book for sale by the Genealogical Society of Old
Tyron County,Forest City, North C., containing article published in the
local paper Jun 1, 1977.
4. "A collection of upwards of Thirty Thousand Names of German, Swiss,
Dutch, French, and other Immigrants in Pennsylvania from 1727 to 1776 with a
statement of the names of Ships, whence they sailed, and the date of their
arrival at Philadelphia, Chronologically Arranged, together with the Necessary
Historical and other Notes..." by Prof. I. Daniel Rupp, reprint of the second
revised and enlarged edition with an added index, published by Genealogical
Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore 1975, and was copied at a library (name not
readable) at 535 Court St., Woodland California.
5. Letter written by Leslie Stice to Boyd & Louise Stice, dated May 25, 1979,
listing the family of Charles Stice, son of Charles the immigrant, which states
that the information was compiled by Wm. G. Hobbs of Port Richey Florida.
FULL TEXT of WILL, dated 1801, Waren County, Kentucky, interpreted from poor
copy. ____ indicates unreadable. (xxx) indicates interpretation by others.
In the name of God Amen. (I return the) Almighty thanks as I find myself in
perfect memory but weak in Body and as it is common for all men Once to Dey, I
recommend my soul to God and my body to the Silent Grave to be entered therein
at the discretions of my Executors and do Ordain this my last will & Testament
as follerith. I give to my Beloved Wife Caty Stice the Euss of the Plantation I
now live on with one hundred & fifty acreys of land. Also One hundred acres of
Land ajoining the same. I now grant to my Son, Philip Stice and at my wife Caty
Decese the So. Plantation & the (whole) of all my land to return to my Son
Philip Stice to be held by him and his heirs forever. I also leave the Eusse of
all and Singular my Moveable Estate in the hands of my Wife Catys, her life time
But to pay out to each child as are present now living with her one hors beast
apiece as the come of age or befour and at my Wifes Deces all & Singular what is
in her hand to be Equally Divided with all my children excepting my son Philip
Stice. it is my Desire that my Wife Caty & Mastin Elmore to act Executors in
this my Will made and Dated this twenty Six day of February 1801 as Witness my
hand and seal.
William Forkner (his mark)
Warren County Sct. December Coart 1801
This last Will and Testament of Charles Stice Deceased was proved by the Oaths
of William Phelps & Philip Jones two Suscribing Witnesses thereto & Ordered to
be recorded. Signed by W. Chapline
NOTE: all of the above appears to be written in the same hand, so the copy on
file is not an original written by Carl Stice.
Ancestry.com Tree by Vinson Family gives the following history:
Charles Carl Steiss & Katron Collins 1745-1815
Charles Carl Steiss was born in 1745 in Alsace, Germany in Lorraine County (this is now a part of France). He was the son of Karl Steiss. Katron Collins was born in 1745 inn Alsace, Germany.
Charles arrived in the United States on September 14, 1754, at the age of 9, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania aboard a ship name The Nancy. There are no other Steiss’s listed on the ship’s manifest, so it is possible that he traveled with the Collins family, or paid his way by working the voyage. After arriving in the United States he worked for eight years as an apprentice to a miller.
On October 20, 1863 Charles was given a land grant by the King of England, however, to accept this grant he had to become a citizen of England and renounce Germany. When this occurred he also changed the spelling of his last name to the English variation, Stice. Charles and Katron married in 1765 in North Carolina and started their family immediately with the births of Mary Elizabeth Stice in 1765 and Phillip A Stice in 1766.
The 1770’s brought three more children to the Stice family, Andrew Stice in 1770, Carl Charles Stice in 1775 and Ruth Stice in 1776. In 1778 Charles submitted a petition to build a grist mill on his property and was granted the right by the Tryon county Court in North Carolina. The original Charles Stice mill carries the name Stice Shoals Dam and still exists on the First Broad River in Cleveland County, North Carolina. (County names have changed) In 1774 Charles paid a triple tax to avoid serving in the Revolutionary War.
The 1780’s found the Stice family living in Rutherford County, North Carolina. The family continued to grow at a faster rate with the births of Robert L Stice in 1780, David Stice in 1782, and Peter J Stice in 1787 Susannah Stice in 1788 and Rebecca Stice in 1789. Information on the children is sketchy. In 1783 Mary married John Haynes and in 1789 Andrew married Nancy Green Wilson.
In 1790 the Stice’s were still residing in Rutherford County, North Carolina. Charles and Katron still had six children at home. Katron had their last child, Sarah Sally Stice in 1790. Phillip is living in Rutherford County and is married. In 1792 Ruth died in Edmundson, Kentucky at the age of 16 for reasons unknown. On March 23, 1799 Charles sold 240 acres of land to George Blanton and left with a group for Mommouth Cave area of Kentucky. He settled his family on Green River near Brownsville.
The 1900’s found Charles and Katron living in Warren County, Kentucky. Andrew is also living in Warren County, he and Nancy have had at least one child, Nancy Green Stice in 1807. Charles is living in Gallatin County, Kentucky. On January 23, 1807 Peter married Charlotte Wainscott and they started their family with the births of Shelby Stice in 1807 and Jesse Stice in 1809. On January 14 1807 Susannah married Robert Burton and they started their family with the births of Richard Burton in 1807 and Sarah Sally Burton in 1809. Charles died December 21, 1801 in Brownsville in Warren County, Kentucky at the age of 56. Following is a transcription of his will:
"In the name of God Amen. I return the Almighty thanks as I find myself in perfect memory but weak in body and as it is common for all men once to die, I recommend my soul to god and my body to the silent grave to be entered therein at the discretions of my Executors and do Ordain this my last will and Testament as following. I give to my beloved wife Caty Stice the Euss of the plantation I now live on with one hundred and fifty acres of land. Also one hundred acres of land adjoining the same. I now grant to my son, Philip Stice and at my wife Caty death the South plantation and the whole of all my land to return to my son Philip Stice to be held by him and his heirs forever. I also leave the Eusse of all and singular my moveable estate in the hands of by wife Caty for her life time, but to pay out to each child as are present now living with her one horse beast a piece as they come of age of before and at my wife’s death all and singular what is in her hand to be equally divided with all my children excepting my son Philip Stice. It is my desire that my wife Caty and Mastin Elmore to act Executors in this my Will made and dated this twenty six day of February 1801 as Witness my hand and seal."
On May 11, 1802 Katron married a second time to James Long.
In 1810 Phillip is living in Rutherford County, North Carolina. The census shows he is married with seven children. Andrew is living in Warren County, Kentucky - he is married and has eight children. Charles is living in Gallatin County, Kentucky - he is married and had six children. He was also the owner of one slave. Robert was married ad living in Warren County. David is also married with two children and living in Warren County. Peter and Charlotte had two more children, Matilda Stice in 1811 and Leodica Stice in 1815. Susannah and Robert had two more children, Rebecca Burton in 1810 and Anna Burton in 1815. On February 25, 1812 Rebecca married James Ethel. Katron died in Warren County, Kentucky in 1815 at the age of 70.
sarajo64added this on 29 May 2011 life story found on Ancestry.com Vinson Family Tree