ANTHORV2 [This is the second installment of Arlene's narrative of the various ANTHONY families in Europe. Although she gets into the VA ANTHONYs, I've reserved that portion for the third report. My reasoning is based on content (discussion of European ANTHONYs together) and length constraints of some e-mail providers. In this we do pick up more intriguing coincidences of surnames found together in VA and Europe. For instance, the MERIWETHERs in VA married THORNTONs; it appears their forebears in Europe did as well. And as you will read, various ANTHONYs chose THORNTONs as spouses in Europe. As in Arlene's previous report, I'm combining several e-mail messages into one report; any comments I add to help with the flow from one message to another is within brackets; the sub- titles are mine as well. I think her suggestion of mapping the movements of these family groups is good; any volunteers? LSS] EUROPEAN ANTHONY OVERVIEW, part 2 by Arlene Anthony SEP 1997 What I have been concentrating on is trying to look for in formation in places not yet searched as well as corollary lines as I am convinced that much of the movement of the families were so intertwined with business friends, religion, and politics that new clues can be found there. So far I have found much that I have not seen published anywhere else. I guess that I am rather unorthodox, but I have found considerable new information by look- ing at the whole social and family enclave. Even in England, they rarely seemed to marry outside of a very narrow social structure. I couldn't find several spouses or information about them until I finally got my hands on a book with the officers of the Mint in the 1500's and 1600's. The Anthonys controlled it for about 80 years. They also married their family members to other Mint of ficers; I guess that helped solidify control. For instance, Charles married one of his daughters off to his former Apprentice after the apprentice's first wife died. Later that apprentice be came Chief Engraver. Please, send me any ideas, information, thoughts positive or nega- tive. I am rather tough-skinned and am interested in whatever thoughts you have. I am absolutely convinced that Mark, the pirate in VA was not Italian born, but from the London or Exeter Anthonys. Depending on what day it is, I will veer from one to the other. I WILL FIND YOU MARK ANTHONY. But why all the fancy stories? Hiding something??? I don't know, but I certainly want to know. One suggestion I have. My husband bought me a 4 by 8 sheet of very heavy particle board and then got me a roll of newsprint end from the local newspaper. I covered the particle board on both sides and drew a time line on one side, a map on the other. Then I started pinning names of my Anthonys on the time line, different colors for family groups. On the map side I have move ments traced. I also put peripheral families on. I can also add other sheets of newsprint over the existing. It really helps in finding time and movement patterns with the people we are working with. The newsprint sheets can be rolled up and changed. About three years ago I printed them up on the walls of a very large area I had in a pool house by the swimming pool (we live in California). I was surprised how obvious certain patterns of names and movements became that I would have not seen before. Dave Goodwin has seen my funky system in its infancy. For those of you who have real mysteries, you might try abandoning your computer for a big chart to get an overall look at what you are doing and where to go next. I made a couple of Boo Boos [in my first report]. It is John An- thony, son of Dr. John and his sister Elizabeth (Isabella) who marry Potters. He marries Susan (Susannah) and she marries Robert. Check the Long Island New York area genealogies for that Robert Potter and Isabella. Also, at one point John and Robert are mentioned together in the land records in RI (or MA). I must look that up. They are in contact with each other. Derrick ANTHONY Line Derrick Anthony, the goldsmith born 1522, had two wives and several children. We are really interested in sons Francis and Charles. ["Crazy"] Dr. Francis (1550 - 1623) has three wives. The first is Jane or Susan HOWE known only through will references of her relatives. The second is the interesting Alice (Alis) HAWES -- interesting because she is the mother of Dr. John, who takes over the medical business of selling Aurum Potabile for his father and secondly because he is the father of several emigrants to the Colonies. They married in 1584. The Hawes were shippers who regularly plied the water to the New World; they had connec- tions with the OLMSTEAD family by marriage. Francis' third wife is Elizabeth LANTI of the Exeter neighborhood of John, Merchant of Exeter. Francis was a Cambridge man -- received his degree 1574. Addi- tional notes: he had homes at Surry and Barnes which is just across the Thames, near the Richmond district and had his main residence on Close Gate Row, which is now located at the corner of Kinghorn Street and Cloth Fair. (I got this from the Rent Subsidies). IF any of you know London, or have a map, find Gos- well Street; the Royal Society of Genealogists is off a side street; go South to where it becomes Aldergate. Kinghorn is just to the west and south of the intersection of Smithfield and Alder- gate -- right near St. Bartholomew the Great Close and Hospital. Francis's brother Charles is a goldsmith who married Elizabeth ARNOLD. Her father is a very important merchant. The Arnolds and the Anthonys are both stockholders in the Virginia Company. I must check the Charter for the Meriwethers. I don't believe they were. One of Francis and Charles sisters, Anne, also marries a very important person, Thomas MIDDLETON. (If you check Maryland genealogies, they list an Anthony Middleton and an Arnold Mid- dleton, both early settlers in the Chesapeake area, [who] sup- posedly go back to Francis and Derrick. I have not looked into these yet. Dr. John, son of Francis had 6 children by two wives. Mary (who is seen both as Wiggs and Thornton), and Sary who is given as (Mrs.) Sary W. Thornton [and Mrs. Sary W.] Higgs. Different names, but verifiable. My guess is that she had buried several husbands. They marry late in life. Francis has also Dr. Charles, who with brother, Dr. John, practices in Bedford as well as London. Dr. Charles married Martha Thornton, daughter of Ed- mund Thornton on 9 Oct 1626 at St. Mary Savoy in Westminster. John has 6 children: John m. Susannah Potter and comes to MA and RI; Rebecca, who marries a reprobate by the name of John Mon- tague; Mary, who marries a James Smith; Samuel, who MAY have married a Thornton; Isabell, who marries Robert Potter, brother of Susannah and goes to NY; (Their daughter Deliverance marries a Greene, who lives in Providence and whose family also marries with John and Susannah's family. It is their daughter, Elizabeth, who marries a James Greene); and Elizabeth who marries one Job Olmstead, a cousin of the Hawes. Richard Arnold has descendants that go to both Virginia and New England concurrent with the Anthony families. Several of the children of John and Susannah go back to the Bedford area to school and one even dies there. Going back to Dr. Charles and Mar- tha Thornton, they have three children: Francis, Martha, and Charles. I have not yet found where they go. Other English ANTHONYs There are a couple of interesting Anthony families in England that I need to work on. One is a Thomas Anthony (I have often won- dered if he is the Thomas Anthony who was the cabin boy to John Smith....allegedly. Any way, he was the supercharge (business agent on the ship Abraham) whose family lived in Bristol in the middle 1600's and onward. He has a diary, of which I have only seen excerpts, but complains of the difficulty of getting enough English and Irish bond slaves to Barbados and VA. He evidently was not above kidnaping them right off the street to fill his quota. My guess is that I need to look into the history of the Abraham as to ownership and its itineraries to put him into a pos- sible list for heritage. His diaries are supposedly in the Univer- sity of Bristol Archives along with most of the shipping records to the New Lands. Have you seen the reference to Dr. John Moorman, Dean of the Cathedral at Exeter about 1575? Or the Sea Captain Jan Van Moor- man who sails with Seger Anthony up and down the coast of Holland -- I believe out of Calais? They had a fleet of hoys (flat bottom barges) that took cargo along the Channel on the French side. The English owned the port of Calais then. [And then there's] Nicholas Anthony who was with Sebastion Cabot on several voyages. He got sick and was put off right before Sebatian's ill-fated voyage to find the Northwest Passage; they all froze to death. Also, there is a family of Anthonys in the Stamford, Lincoln area. (Mr. Collett-White's object of research). They have several Mark's. If one goes back far enough they spell the name ANTON. But Mr. White assured me he had traced them to Francis. Since he heads the Bedford Public Record Office, I believe it; but I haven't got it and he didn't have the material with him. Several of his pamphlets are in the Record Office there. A side point: We were in a shop in Glasgow and the young man next to us gave his name as Anthony to the clerk. Of course we stopped him to ask about his family. He was from Stamford, rather uneducated, and simply knew that his family lived in that area for 4 generations, but nothing else. They were farmers. Probably thought we were nuts. There is also an odd Mark that married a SPARHAWK in the late 1690's. The name shows up in Quaker records in New England. I must chase that one down. I will get back to VA lines, but I have a couple of other thoughts. Montserrat and their volcano tragedy made me think about this one. About 1700 there was an admiralty case with an Anthony connected family (I think it was the Manwarings, who are ship owners with several of the seafaring Anthonys) and the ship MARK ANTHONY, previously known as the JOSEPH. Evidently the Joseph was high-jacked and renamed the Mark Anthony. I found this an intriguing case and will want to read it someday. Also there is a line of Anthonys, allegedly from Ireland, who ar- rive in North Carolina. First one marries a Clark -- I think it is a William Anthony who marries a Hannah Clark. I have often won- dered about this line -- particularly if this was a line that had connection to the line of Devon Anthonys that stayed in Ireland after Cromwell. Was there a connection between the William Candler who came in the 1700s? The Irish Anthony line that stayed in Ireland is documented in the Society of Genealogists in London in a handwritten document. There is another Anthony line docu- mented there that is Quaker in England. Most of them end up in Australia, but the significant name is that they are from Cog- geshall, England. The first generation of Anthonys in Rhode Is land married Coggeshall children in RI. In fact one of the main streets in Newport (where 4 Anthony homes still are extant) is called Coggeshall Ave. Sons of "Crazy Doc" Francis Charles, the son of Francis is very interesting. He marries a daughter of Richard Arnold (think Benedict) a haberdasher on Ludgate Hill. Richard's daughter, Elizabeth, after Charles dies, has some very difficult problems with her kids, evidently over a piece of property at Broken Wharfe which is right on the Thames. The will calls them "settling ponds" -- obviously just that for water was drawn from the river and allowed to settle out the dirt. At present Broken Wharfe has a big modern high rise sitting on it in the Financial District of London. However, daughter in-law Judith, evidently marries again to a John HOLLAND and moves to New England. There is a big lawsuit. I found Elizabeth's deposition on parchment in the Chancery Lane Public Records Of fice. It is about 2 by 3 feet; the bottom half, which is the im- portant half, is caked with dirt and very wrinkled. It was not readable in the present condition, but refers to the land in Vir- ginia that appears to go to grandchildren and cousins, Thomas and Andrew; however, this needs to be looked at by someone more ex- pert than Don and myself. The first half is quite readable. I would guess that this document had not been touched in 300 years. [Linda here: The HOLLAND surname is found in Hanover and Louisa Counties VA "doing things" with Capt. Christopher Clark. One was a merchant in Hanover County.] Also the brother of Francis has a son named Charles, who, as his [Francis'] son John, becomes a Doctor. His [brother Charles] wife is Martha THORNTON, daughter of Edmund Thornton. They marry in 1626. Elizabeth Arnold's brother, Samuel Arnold, marries a Mary THORNTON, and they have a son Samuel. This Samuel has a son, An thony Arnold. If you look in Maryland, you will find this Anthony Arnold very active; he is finally hung, I believe, during Bacon's Rebellion. This is supposedly the same THORNTON family that Nicholas Meriwether is married to. There is a wonderful ARNOLD genealogy and history in the Sutro Library, well documented, that has this history; I have not checked her references. One of the things I want to do in VA is check the area of the THORNTON, MERIWETHER and ANTHONY land claims in the early days and the sources and passages of the land grants. Mark Anthony, who comes as a head right in 1690, of the Flemings comes with a land patent to Fleming very close to a Meriwether grant. Remember, brother John, is the son of Francis also; [he too is] a doctor, who has a John who comes to New England. Brother John is an MD as well. He has three interesting mementos: a book in the British Museum, the _Gospel Physician_, and another, the _Comfort of the Soul_. Talk about boring. Also a supposed notebook with the crest of Charles II on it. I have been to the British Museum three times, with my researcher pass in hand, and nobody can find it. Dr. John also testifies in a court trial in the admiralty court about a fight he witnesses in Barbados in 1634 where a sailor has his ear bitten off. (And you thought Mike Tyson was the only one!) [This John had] two wives. According to the _History of the Parish of St. Bartholomew the Greater_, which I saw first in the church office and then found in the UC Davis library, his first wife was Mary THORNTON who was permitted to have meat broth- during Lent because of a long illness. His second wife was Mrs. Sary W. Hilty (who is reputed to have been a Wiggs or a Thornton.) His son Charles marries a Martha Thornton and another child [married] one as well. So we know that brother John was traveling. He was probably familiar with this area also because Margaret Ridge, second wife of Grandpa Derrick, was the sister of John Somers (think George of the Somers Island fame...same family). Also, brother Charles (of Francis) has a son Andrew, who dies in 1626. He is too early for the Andrew who comes to VA; however, his son Andrew is not. IF we put is all together, there is no doubt that these ANTHONYs were all over the New World. Son Edward also has a son, MARK. CANDLER related families I just ran across the name of Ann, widow of John VILLIERS, who is the second wife of William Candler #1. Her name was Ann COOKE. About the Mary CANDLER situation: check the IGI for the ap- propriate periods in Northumberland. I have it, somewhere, yet unfiled -- the marriage is recorded. Also check the Irish Privy Council Minutes. There are two volumes which cover a couple of decades each, unlike the year by year in England. These should be available in the "Government Documents -- England" of a good major university library. William Candler was in Cromwell's army; I believe he was in Michael Jones' company. By the way, Dr. John [Anthony] was the personal physician and surgeon of Edwin Sandys and attached to this company. John Villier was killed during the Irish campaign; his wife married William Candler after this. Thus we must assume that Mary was born to William's first wife. Otherwise, Mary was born about twenty years too late. I have not found Elizabeth Anthony's death record, but then, I haven't looked hard enough. However, William and Ann Villier are definitely married according to several notations in the second volume of the Privy Council records, but after the death of John in the Civil War.