FORT MIMS QUERIES
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BROWN Carolynn 22 Oct 1998
My gggfather John Wesley BROWN was b. at Ft Mims in 1813 so the family goes. They went there for safety. I need help in finding the facts about this any info on this family. Thanks.
CARSON / BATES Allen Carson
Thomas CARSON and wife Jenny moved to the Tombigbee settlements of Washington County from GA before 1802, dying in 1807 at the age of 44. His son John S. CARSON married Sarah BATES, and there were several BATES families in the area. Both the family names CARSON and BATES are listed as victims at Fort Mims. Any info as to other children of Thomas, or Fort Mims greatly appreciated.
Here is some other info on the two brothers, Joseph CARSON and Thomas CARSON: The family came from Newry, County Down, Ireland, arriving in June of 1773 at Charleston, SC. They then moved to Abbeville, SC, a magnet for Scots-Irish. There were 6 brothers and a sister, and all of the men of the family fought in the Revolution. They were given land in GA for military service, and by 1790 were in Wilkes County, GA. As with so many Southerners, they tended to move west looking for more and better land, GA>AL>MS>TX. The son of Thomas Carson, John S. Carson, is my direct ancestor.
Possibly the reason we know so little about his family is that they may have been wiped out at Fort Mims. I have a lots of wills, land grants, etc., on the family before and after Thomas, but almost nothing on him. His brother Joseph CARSON was well documented, being a hero of the Creek War as well as a prominent politician. He married into a prominent family in Natchez, MS, (the father of Caroline GREEN, his wife, was a general), died at the age of 51 and is buried between Old St. Stephens and Carson Station, Washington Co. He had one child, James Green CARSON, and James's son was William Waller CARSON, graduate of Washington and Lee and professor of engineering at the University of Tennessee. Thanks for your help. Alan Carson
HOVEN Mary Looney
Wanted to let you know about another family nearly wiped out at Fort Mims. My gggg-grandfather, Benjamin HOVEN (sometimes spelled HOOVEN) and 10 other members of his family were killed there. His son, John, managed to escape the fort, as did John's sister. Her name is lost to us, but by "detective" work, we believe it to be Elizabeth. John later fought in the War of 1812. He settled in Jackson, Alabama, in Clarke County, where he raised a large family.
A detailed account of his escape exists, but I will have to look up the book and send that to you later, if you are interested.
JERNIGAN Deborah K. Edmondson Young
Looking for information as to the JERNIGAN family reported as casualties of the Fort Mims massacre. No names are given in the listings except JERNIGAN
LANDRUM / BROWN / ASHWORTH / HUNT / ROGERS Kathryn Slatten-DeMarco 03 Nov 1998
My LANDRUM line had a fort in the vicinity (called LANDRUM's Fort) which is mentioned in "Colonial Mobile". There is other fascinating accounts of the Battle of Ft Mims there also.
One of my ancestors, Robert BROWN, fought at the Battle of Burnt Corn and he gave an account of the situation in his bounty land grant application.
Some of my surnames who were there before and after the battle of Ft Mims were: ASHWORTH, BROWN, HUNT, ROGERS, LANDRUM
LANIER / HART / RIGDON Nathan Chessher 21 Sep 1998
I am a member of the Florida Tribe of Eastern Creek Indians. I have several ancestors who were in the Baldwin County Ala. area before and after Ft. Mims ----
Lewis LANIER b 1802 in NC was one, his daughter Sophia A. LANIER b. 1834 Muscogee Co., Ga. married my ggrandfather Elijah MORGAN, b. 1829. Lewis LANIER lived at Battle Wharf near Stockton Ala. As you know, that is very near Ft Mims. He lived there in the 1850's and 60's His first wife was Polly. When Polly died he married Sarah C. from Mississippi. I feel there is Indian blood in this family because they had Indian features.
Also there was a HART family killed in the fort. We are descended from Reuben HART b. 1780 NC married to Nancy RIGDON. There was a Martin RIGDON who escaped from the fort. We think there might be a connection, Reuben HART was first known to be in west Conecuh Co Ala. in 1815 The HARTs in the fort could be his father and mother.
McGEE / LOTT Mik MP
My ggrandmother was Elizabeth McGEE, married to James L. LOTT. She was born in 1850, married in 1865 in Miss. Her mother was Suckey McGEEHE, on the 1832 Eastern Creek census as living at HIckory Ground town. I know William LOTT, his son Thomas LOTT (married to Lena YAHOLA), and many LOTTs and McGHEEs who were relatives of mine lived in the Creek Nation. William LOTT was on the Old Settlers of the Creek Nation. Seeking information on the McGEE family and the LOTTs.
I was wondering who the LOTTs, McGHEEs, and ADCOCKs who were killed at the Ft. Mims Massacre were.
McWHORTER Sid Corhern 2 Nov 1998
I found McWHORTER family I believe I am related to. Can I get more information. Thanks.
MIMS Linda Vines
I am looking for information regarding Robert MIMS and Jordan MIMS. I think their father's name was William MIMS and he may have been an F.M.C. (Free Man of Color). Jordan and Robert were brothers but on the 1870 census it stated that Jordan was mulatto - but I don't know if the mix was white or Native American. I do know that some of Sam MIMS' decendants settled in Bossier Parish. Sincerely, Linda Vines
OSBORNE Julie Baker
Family history has it that Dr. Ephraim Brevard OSBORNE survived the Ft. Mims Massacre and he "strapped a small girl to his back and swam the river." His brother, Spruce McKay OSBORNE did not survive the massacre. I have not been able to find any verification of this family story. Dr. Ephraim (sometimes spelled Ephriam) is my gggg-grandfather. Any help is appreciated.
Also, where are the victims of the Ft. Mims massacre buried?
As far back as I can get on my OSBORNEs is to Alexander Osborne who was born in New Jersey in 1709 and died and is buried in Iredell County, NC in 1776. He has a joint tombstone with his wife Agnes McWHORTER who is the daughter of Hugh McWhorter (b? Armagh Ireland, came to New Castle 1730, d. 1749 Delaware) who is the son of Alexander McWhorter. Alexander's headstone says OSBORN and his son's (Adlai) says OSBORNE.
PHILLIPS Cody Phillips
Zachariah PHILLIPS Jr., my gggrandfather was born in 1810 at Little River, Baldwin County, Alabama and died in 1877. Little River is just north of Fort Mims. His burial site can be found just inside Monroe County at the Little River Baptist Church Cemetery. His wife, Elizabeth is buried next to him. Zachariah was part Creek Indian. Zachariah's father, Zachariah PHILLIPS Sr., is mentioned in a book detailing the events prior to and during the raid against the Creeks at Burnt Corn. According to the book, Zachariah PHILLIPS Sr. was elected (or selected by his group) to be a Major and led the Little River militia, along with militia groups from other areas, in the Battle of Burnt Corn. If anyone has any other information concerning Zachariah Jr. or Sr., their origins and family history, I would be happy to hear from them.
PIERCE Al Pierce
There is a small article on Bishop PIERCE in the book Ft. Mims and the Tensaw settlement. This was a settlement north of Mobile in late 1700 and early 1800's.It states that Bishop PIERCE was a Methodist preacher in the settlement. He survived the Ft. Mims massacre and moved to GA to what later became Pierce County where he became Methodist Bishop and raised many children. Since this area was Creek Indian territory at the time there are very few records. Surviving the Ft. Mims Massacre may have meant he was not there at the time. One family of PIERCE was killed. He would probably been at Ft.Pierce at the time which belonged to two PIERCE brothers who came there with their parents from Conn. in 1776. They are talked about several times because of their success there. It doesn't mention whether they were related or different familiar. I tried to find more info because my ggg-grandfather lived less than 30 miles from there at the time in the Burnt Corn Creek Settlement (Monroe County). I never could make a connection. Happy hunting, Al Pierce
PS: looking for a copy of "Early Settlers along The Old Federal Road in Monroe and Conecuh Counties".
Note from CM: Halbert & Ball, The Creek War of 1813 and 1814: "Fort Pierce was a small stockade some two miles south-east of Fort Mims. It took its name from two brother, William Pierce and John Pierce, who came from New England and made their home in Spanish times. Wiliam Pierce was a weaver and John Pierce a teacher."
Ft. Pierce is where David Tate is said to have been during the Massacre, when Davy's wife and daughters died.
John Pierce was the teacher at the school at the Tensaw settlement called "the first American school" 1799. Many children of the well-known families of mixed blood attended the school: McGillivray, Tate, Weatherfords, Durants, Linders, Mims.
PIERCE Diane Ballman
I was just reading all about the Battle at Fort Mims. I'm very interested in the Pierce's Mill. Do you have any idea who the PIERCE's were? My PIERCE family goes way back in Alabama history and was wondering if there might be a connection there. Thank you!
SINQUEFIELD / BOSWELL / STINSON Virginia Kobler
The BOSWELL and some of the SINQUEFIELD children were orphaned prior to February 1813 when they were assigned guardians by the Clarke County, Alabama, court. The BOSWELL children were assigned to Charles PHILLIPS whose wife was the pregnant woman killed in the siege of Fort Sinquefield. Later I notice that Charles PHILLIPS filed a claim for loss of property during this period. Another ancestor who was there, Burwell STINSON, did likewise.
I am a descendant of Asa BOSWELL and Martha STINSON, daughter of Burwell STINSON. Asa was one of the three BOSWELL orphans named in the Clarke County record of 1813. I believe Asa to be the son of James BOSWELL who married Jane SINQUEFIELD and that their coming to Clarke County was a family migration. Ft. Sinquefield may have been the home of Jane's brother or father. I would like to find out more about the owner of the home.
I have read everything I can get my hands on pertaining to the Creek Wars in that area. However, I have not been successful in finding out what had actually happened to the BOSWELL and SINQUEFIELD parents. Were they killed in one of the encounters with the Creeks or died by disease, etc.?
Note from CM: Halbert & Ball, The Creek War of 1813 and 1814: "Fort Sinquefield was about ten miles north of Fort Madison, on the western side of Bassett's Creek, a large stream of water for a creek... it was about five miles south0east from the present town of Grove Hill, formerly called Macon, the county seat of Clarke County. This fort stood on a table-land or height of ground extending for a mile north and south. Eastward is a gentle slope which terminates finally at Bassett's Creek valley. Westward are deep valleys and narrow, between large, high ridges of land. No actual hill is within miles of this locality, yet the ascent from the valleys to the top of the ridges or table, might be called going uphill. The spring which supplied this stockade with water is south of west, in one of the deep valleys, distant two hundred and sevnety-five yards."
Also from Halbert & Ball: The fort was one of several stockades built by General Claiborne, after he reached Clarke Co. July 30th, who had decided that the lesssons of the Battle of Burnt Corn should prevail and that enclosed forts were the best means of defense. Ft. Sinquefield was a stockade surrounding a residence and its outbuildings. Others built at the same time were Ft. Madison, Glass, Lavier (Could that be Lanier?? There were Laniers in the area), White, Easley, and Carney. A company of men under Captain Scott were sent to St. Stephens to occupy the old block house there.
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