Douglas_Glendinning Connection

Douglas - Glendinning Connection

 

Email from [email protected], dated 08 Feb 2005:

"I had received this information from the Herald and Seneschal to the Chief - Clan Rutherfurd, Gary Harding...And it includes some references for Glendonwyn and Glendoning family information."

Here are two separate lines of descent which bring the Hunthill Rutherfords firmly into the Douglas family and fortunes. The fall of the Douglases also signaled the fall of the Rutherfords.

First Pedigree

1. Lord William de Duglas, 1st Lord of Douglas died after 1100 Created Lord De Duglas by King Malcolm Canmore in 1057

2. Sir John de Duglas, 2nd Lord of Douglas died about 1145 A man of great note in the reign of King David I

3. Sir William de Duglas, 3rd Lord of Douglas was born about 1174 in Douglasdale, Lanarkshire He died about 1213 in Douglasdale, Lanarkshire >First Douglas for which written records are available. All previous records were probably in the wars of sucession.

It is known that Douglases resided in the area for many years prior to 1057.

4. Earl Archibald Douglas born in 1198 died abt 1240 Lord Douglas of Douglasdale. wife: Margaret Crawford of Crawford

5. Sir Andrew Douglas of Hermiston born abt 1205 died after 1259 of Hermiston, Midlothian, Scotland Witnessed a Charter in 1248 Sir Andrew was the progenator of the Morton Branch of the clan. He founded the Douglas Family of Dalkeith.

6. Sir William Douglas of Hermiston was born about 1245 died after 8/28/1296 in Scotland Knight of Alexander III of Linlithgow

7. Sir James Douglas of Lothian [of Laudonia] died before 20 Apr 1323 m. Joan

8. Sir John Douglas of Lothian b. Aft 1300 d. by 25 Jan 1350 m. Agnes Monfode widow of Sir John Monfode of Skirling b. ca 1315 in Scotland d. bef August 1, 1377

9. Margaret Douglas b c 1325, d by 7/1377 d/o Sir John Douglas of Lothian & Agnes Monfode; niece of Sir William Douglas of Lothian - ancestor of the Douglases of Morton m. (c1342) Adam de Glendonwyn of Glendonwyn

Adam de Glendonewyn occupied Glendonwyn in 1341-42. About 1342 Adam married Margaret, daughter of Sir John Douglas of Lothian & wife Agnes Monfode; niece of Sir William Douglas of Lothian. Margaret born c.1325, died before Aug 1, 1377. Her brother Sir James Douglas of Dalkeith, born c.l330, was beloved “kinsman” of Robert II, King of Scotland.

10. Sir Adam de Glendonwyn of Glendonwyn (d before 4/26/1407) m. Margaret de Wauchope d/o Alexander de Wauchope

Sir Adam Glendonwyn, of Glendonwyn, holding also La Baly or Bailiehill, Eskdalemuir & the barony of Brecallow or Barntalloch as “consul supreme greatest vassal of the House of Douglas. Sir Adam was one of the principals “Border Barons” of Scotland. He married Alexander de Wauchope’s daughter, Margaret & gained the lands of Wauchope, because of no male heirs in the Wauchope family. Sir Adam died before April 26, 1407, had six Sons by his wife Margaret.

William Wauchope, or Walhope, possessed land in Rulewater in about 1300, and the next evidence having any territorial bearing occurs in 1388-1389, in which year a charter of the lands of Walchope was confirmed by James, Earl of Douglas, to Alexander de Walchope and to his heirs, whom failing, to Sir Adam de Glendonwyn and his heirs. This Sir Adam was a son of the “Sir Adam Glendoning who was in all times a [End of Page 28] firm and faithful friend of King Robert Bruce”, and his mother was “a daughter of Walchope of that ilk”.

(Douglas, Baronage of Scotland, I, Edinburgh, 1798, pp. 234 and 235.) In 1380 Sir Adam Glendonwyn was receiver of the Douglas revenues for Eskdale, and received grants of the lands of Brecallow, i.e. Barntalloch or Stapelgortoun. (Hyslop, Langholm as it was. Sunderland, 1912, p.261)

11. Sir Simon Glendonwyn of Glendonwyn (b c1378, d 1437) m. (1406-7) Mary Douglas d/o Archibald Douglas, 4th Earl of Douglas, Duke of Tourraine and Margaret Stewart d/o John Stewart, King Robert III of Scots. Sir Simon Glendonwyn of Glendonwyn, was born c.1378, severely wounded in battle, died early in 1437. In 1406-7 Sir Simon married Lady Mary Douglas, daughter of Archibald, 4th Earl of Douglas, Lord of Galloway, afterwards Duke of Touraine and wife Margaret, eldest daughter of Robert III, King of Scotland. Mary born c.l390, elder legitimate daughter of the Earl & his Countess, as her dower or inheritance----the great barony of Parton of Gallway. Mary got more than her sister, Lady Buchan.

12. Sir Simon (William) Glendonwyn of Glendonwyn and Parton (a 1455) m2. Elizabeth Lindsay d/o Alexander Lindsay, 2nd Earl of Crawford and Marjory (Margaret) Dunbar parents: Alexander Lindsay, 2nd Earl of Crawford born: abt 1387 in Glenesk, Angusshire, Scotland died: 13 January 1445/46 He was knighted at the coronation of King James in 1424, and was a hostage for the King, being detained at the Tower of London, York, and Pontefract 1424-27. He was ambassador to England 1430-31. His father, Sir David Lindsay, 1st Earl of Crawford was the famous knight who defeated Lord Welles in a joust on London Bridge on the feast of St. George, 1390. Alexander Lindsay's aunt, also Elizabeth Lindsay, was the wife of Lord Robert Erskine, ancestor of the Edgerston Rutherfurds. Alexander Lindsay's aunt, Agnes Dunbar, was the wife of Sir James Douglas - 1st Lord of Dalkeith and as such was also the great great aunt of Sir Simon Glendonwyn. Alexander Lindsay's mother was Elizabeth Stewart, d/o Robert II Stewart, King of Scotland and Queen Eupheme of Ross

13. Margaret Glendonwyn m. Robert Rutherford of Chatto (a 1484, d before 05.1495) who acquired Hunthill by marriage had confirmation of his late father's gift of Nether Chatto [Sir George Rutherford] November 21, 1429 from Archibald 4th Earl of Douglas, as his dear esquire (RCh), with Crown confirmation March 25, 1439 (Ib; not in GS).

4th of Drumlanrig William Douglas - Killed on 22 July 1484 at the Battle of Kirtle, fighting for the Crown against his cousin, 9th Earl of Douglas, who had invaded from England. - Robert Rutherford acceded in 1484 the same year as the battle of Kirtle. Robert Rutherford of Chatto acquired Hunthill by marriage had confirmation of his late father's gift of Nether Chatto November 21, 1429 from Archibald 4th Earl of Douglas, as his dear esquire (RCh), with Crown confirmation March 25, 1439 (Ib; not in GS). In November 1437 with four leading kinsmen he was on the retour at Jedburgh of Sir William Douglas of Drumlanrig as heir in the East Mains of Hawick (DB III? 371). On July 13, 1464 he and his wife Margaret had a grant of lairs (burial places) in the choir of Jedburgh Abbey from the abbot (MS 7,736). Hood's statement that by 1434 the choir was divided among the Rutherfords for burial was unfounded (IlkH lxi).

Robert served on another Douglas retour at Jedburgh in January 1464/5 (MS 7, 728). To judge by his heir's approximate birthdate Robert married Sir Simon Glendinwin's daughter Margaret long before December 12, 1465 when the knight gave them charter of lands 'in the west part of the town of Scraisburgh, and the lands commonly called 'le Hunthil' - from which their descendants took their designation, for a render of a pound of pepper or 3s. to Simon, five marks to the abbot of Jedburgh and 40s. to the king for castle ward (GS II N.899). Robert remained styled 'of Chatto'. He witnessed at Dryburgh Abbey in June 1468 an agreement between James Rutherford II of that Ilk and others dividing part of the Lauder inheritance (MS 12, App V!II, 121), and at Edinburgh in May 1471 a charter by William Lord Abernethy to Walter Ker"(MS 14, App III, 21). With a George and a Richard, no doubt his sons, he was on the retour of John fourth Lord Maxwell at Jedburgh in April 1486 (Caer II, 443).

Second Pedigree (virtually word for word with the First Pedigree)

1. Lord William de Duglas, 1st Lord of Douglas d. aft 1100 Created Lord De Duglas by King Malcolm Canmore in 1057

2. Sir John de Duglas, 2nd Lord of Douglas d. abt 1145 A man of great note in the reign of King David I

3. William of Douglas b. 1174 d. 1213

4. Archibald of Douglas b. 1213 d. 1240

5. Sir William of Douglas b. 1240 d. 1274

6. Sir William "le Hardi" of Douglas d. 1298, London Died a prisoner in London.

7. Sir James "The Good" Douglas, Lord of Douglas "The Good Sir James" was a lifelong friend and supporter of the Bruce and died in Spain carrying the Bruce's heart to the Holy Land. Sir James had joined with the King of Castille in his crusade against the Moors and was killed leading a charge against an enemy force that far outnumbered his own. The Bruce's heart was recovered from the battlefield and returned to Scotland. Sir James "The Good" was killed in 1330. Sir James' body and Bruce's heart were returned to Scotland and laid to rest at St. Bride's Church and Melrose Abbey, respectively.

In 1330 a group of Scottish Knights and Templars under the commandership of Sir James Douglas take Bruce's Heart to the Holy Land, but make a pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostella in Spain, and take part in the first great successful battle against the Moors at Teba, Calavatra, (this is where the name Braveheart comes from when Douglas throws the heart of Bruce in a silver casket forward into the Moorish lines, and calls "go Braveheart and we, your Knights will follow").

Only four Knights survive and return to Scotland out of twenty-two. Two Sinclairs of Rosslyn die with the Douglas. Hay who brought back both the heart of Bruce and Douglas. The name of the family becomes Lockhart. In 1990 a member of M.T.S. is present at the 660 year anniversary of the Battle.

The Good Sir James - Lord of Galloway Born: about 1286, Douglas Castle, Strathclyde, Scotland Died: August 25, 1330, by Moors in Spain, carrying Robert the Bruce's heart to Holy Land "... the Good Sir James,' the friend of Robert Bruce, the most illustrious member of the Douglas family, and one of the noblest of the band of heroes who vindicated the freedom and independence of Scotland against the English arms. The romantic incidents in the career of this famous warrior and patriot would fill a volume. On the imprisonment of his father he retired to France, where he spent three years, 'exercising himself in all virtuous exercise,' says Godscroft, and 'profited so well that he became the most compleat and best-accomplished young nobleman in the country or elsewhere.' On the death of his father young Douglas returned to Scotland. His paternal estate having been bestowed by King Edward on Lord Clifford, he was received into the household of Lamberton, Bishop of St. Andrews, with whom he 'counted kin' through his mother. He was residing there when Robert Bruce assumed the crown in 1305-6, and took up arms against the English invaders. Douglas, who was then only eighteen years of age, on receiving intelligence of this movement, resolved to repair at once to Bruce's standard. According to Barbour, he took this step secretly, though with the knowledge and approval of the patriotic prelate, who recommended him to provide himself with a suit of armour and to take a horse from his stables, with a show of force, thus 'robbing the bishop of what he durst not give.' Lesley, Bishop of Ross, however, makes no mention of force, and says Douglas carried a large sum of money from Lamberton to Bruce. He met the future King at Erickstane, near Moffat, on his way to Scone to be crowned, and proferred him his homage and his services, which were cordially welcomed. From that time onward, until the freedom and independence of the kingdom were fully established, Douglas never left Bruce's side, alike in adversity and prosperity, and was conspicuous both for his valour in battle and his wisdom in council. He was present at the battle of Methven, where the newly crowned King was defeated, and narrowly escaped being taken prisoner. He was one of the small band who took refuge, with Bruce and his Queen and other ladies, in the wilds first of Athole and then of Breadalbane, where for some time they subsisted on wild berries and the scanty and precarious produce of fishing and the chase. Barbour makes especial mention of the exertions of Sir James Douglas to provide for the wants and to promote the comfort of the ladies."

8. Archibald "The Grim" Douglas, 3rd Earl of Douglas and Lord of Galloway b. abt 1325 acceded: 1388 d. 12/24/1400 at Threave burial: Bothwell m. 7/23/1362 to Joan Moray d. 8/1409 d/o Maurice Moray Earl of Strathearn and Joan Menteith m1. Sir ThomasMurray m2. 7/23/1362 to Archibald "The Grim" Douglas, 3rd Earl of Douglas

9. Archibald 'The Tyneman' Douglas, 4th Earl of Douglas b. abt 1370 acceded: 1400 d. 8/17/1424, battle of Verneuil burial: 8/24/1449, Tours Cathedral Duke of Touraine, Marechal of France m. bef 1390 to Margaret Stuart; children: i. Archibald Douglas, 5th Earl of Douglas, b. abt 1390 ii. James Douglas, Earl of Douglas iii. Elizabeth Douglas iv. William Douglas v. Mary Douglas m. Sir Simon Glendonwyn of Glendonwyn

10. Mary Douglas d/o Archibald Douglas, 4th Earl of Douglas, Duke of Tourraine and Margaret Stewart d/o John Stewart, King Robert III of Scots m. (1406-7) Sir Simon Glendonwyn of Glendonwyn (b c1378, d 1437)

11. Sir Simon (William) Glendonwyn of Glendonwyn and Parton (a 1455) m2. Elizabeth Lindsay d/o Alexander Lindsay, 2nd Earl of Crawford and Marjory (Margaret) Dunbar parents: Alexander Lindsay, 2nd Earl of Crawford born: abt 1387 in Glenesk, Angusshire, Scotland died: 13 January 1445/46 He was knighted at the coronation of King James in 1424, and was a hostage for the King, being detained at the Tower of London, York, and Pontefract 1424-27. He was ambassador to England 1430-31. His father, Sir David Lindsay, 1st Earl of Crawford was the famous knight who defeated Lord Welles in a joust on London Bridge on the Feast of St. George, 1390. Alexander Lindsay's aunt, also Elizabeth Lindsay was the wife of Lord Robert Erskine, ancestor of the Edgerston Rutherfurds. Alexander Lindsay's aunt, Agnes Dunbar, was the wife of Sir James Douglas - 1st Lord of Dalkeith a descendant of the Bruce family. It was through this line that Hunthill was given by Robert the Bruce to Sir Thomas Randolph and passed through the Randolph, Dunbar and Douglas families to the Rutherfords. [see below]. Agnes Dunbar was also the great great aunt of Sir Simon Glendonwyn. Alexander Lindsay's mother was Elizabeth Stewart, d/o Robert II Stewart, King of Scotland and Queen Eupheme of Ross

12. Margaret Glendonwyn m. Robert Rutherford of Chatto (a 1484, d before 05.1495) who acquired Hunthill by marriage had confirmation of his late father's gift of Nether Chatto [Sir George Rutherford] November 21, 1429 from Archibald 4th Earl of Douglas, as his dear esquire (RCh), with Crown confirmation March 25, 1439 (Ib; not in GS). 4th of Drumlanrig William Douglas - Killed on 22 July 1484 at the Battle of Kirtle, fighting for the Crown against his cousin, 9th Earl of Douglas, who had invaded from England. - Robert Rutherford acceded in 1484 the same year as the battle of Kirtle. Robert Rutherford of Chatto acquired Hunthill by marriage had confirmation of his late father's gift of Nether Chatto November 21, 1429 from Archibald 4th Earl of Douglas, as his dear esquire (RCh), with Crown confirmation March 25, 1439 (Ib; not in GS). In November 1437 with four leading kinsmen he was on the retour at Jedburgh of Sir William Douglas of Drumlanrig as heir in the East Mains of Hawick (DB III? 371). On July 13, 1464 he and his wife Margaret had a grant of lairs (burial places) in the choir of Jedburgh Abbey from the abbot (MS 7,736). Hood's statement that by 1434 the choir was divided among the Rutherfords for burial was unfounded (IlkH lxi).

Robert served on another Douglas retour at Jedburgh in January 1464/5 (MS 7, 728). To judge by his heir's approximate birthdate Robert married Sir Simon Glendinwin's daughter Margaret long before December 12, 1465 when the knight gave them charter of lands 'in the west part of the town of Scraisburgh, and the lands commonly called 'le Hunthil' - from which their descendants took their designation, for a render of a pound of pepper or 3s. to Simon, five marks to the abbot of Jedburgh and 40s. to the king for castle ward (GS II N.899). Robert remained styled 'of Chatto'. He witnessed at Dryburgh Abbey in June 1468 an agreement between James Rutherford II of that Ilk and others dividing part of the Lauder inheritance (MS 12, App V!II, 121), and at Edinburgh in May 1471 a charter by William Lord Abernethy to Walter Ker"(MS 14, >App III, 21). With a George and a Richard, no doubt his sons, he was on the retour of John fourth Lord Maxwell at Jedburgh in April 1486 (Caer >II, 443).