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We will present the records that have been found and hopefully be able to get this family charted.  There are two known Veale families.  One family is in the northern part of Virginia and the other in the southern part.  We will designate these two as North Veale and South Veale.     This page consist of the known Veales of Northern Neck area and the records that support that.  Other records found, but could not be identified specifically as any of these Veales are found at  Unknown Veale Records.

Researchers involved in this work include:   Ralph Veale, Bob Veale, Lynda Veal, Lisa Bass, Van Stilley, Burt Veal, & Research records of Neil Zipfel, Jimmy V., Ralph Veale, Bob Veale, Van Stilley, Timothy;

 

1634 - " The Veales were in what is now the United States almost from the beginning of the colonial period. Jane Veale came to VA in 1634 as an indentured servant for William Parker in Warrasquinoake Co., VA. She came with six others which allowed Parker to receive 350 acres of land.

 

1654 /5 - Other than Jane (who is someone else's ancestor), the first male Veale we know much about is William. Tax records show he was a landowner in Lancaster Co., VA in 1654. Court records show he was ordered to pay a levy in 1654/5. Immigration records do not show a William Veale immigrating to VA prior to 1655. At the moment, there is no information to say who his father might have been. H. J. Eckenmode lista a William Veale in his list of Colonial soldiers of VA. Perhaps William Veale came to VA as an English solider and then decided to stay.

 

Ralph Veale:  "I was able to get the will of William Veale who lived in Lancaster Co., VA from 1654 to at least 1662.  The land was located on the south side of the Rappahannock River (VA Tax Records, VA Colonial Abstracts, and Cavaliers & Pioneers)  Cavailiers & Pioneers list William as living in Rappahannock County in 1687 near land bought by Arthur Ownbee.  His land was on the south side of the Rappahannock River, north of Coleman's Creek.  Rappahannock Co. was just up the river a short distance from Lancaster County.  The VA Wills and Administration has a will listed for a William Veale in Essex Co (Rappahannock Co was abolished in 1692 and records were transferred to Essex Co which became the new county name).  This location is less than 25 miles from the center of Westmoreland Co., VA."  His will was dated 29 May 1693 and he left all his land and possessions to his daughter, Sara Lee and/or his grandson, John Butler and his granddaughter, Sara Butler.  He also left some land to Charles Combs.  So it appears that he had no sons living. "


Burke's Commoners, Vol. 4: p. 523: Edw. Fleetwood, esq. of Rossall, b. 13th Jan 1682 who m/Sarah, dau. of John Veal, esq. of Whinney Heyes, in Lancaster. p. 287: John Busvargus, esq: The eldest son.....was b. July 1681, m/ 1707 Hannah, dau. of John Veale, of Trevailer, gentleman.

Southern Veales - Norfolk County, VA - Not ours!!

SOUTH VEALES - There was also a Morris Veale, who was listed as born between 1655 and 1660, who was married to Elizabeth Johnson. It was believed they were one and the same, but now it appears they were two different Morris' or Maurice - one from Westmoreland Co. and one from Norfolk Co. - they both had sons named Morris Jr. and William. The Norfolk Veales were: Morris, had two sons, William b. 1683, Morris Jr. b. 1687 - 3 dau's: Mary, Elizabeth, & Jenny. William m. Mary Cratchet and had 3 sons and 2 daughters: Lemuel, George, Abigale, Thomas, and Elizabeth. Thomas m. Bethia Edwards and had 8 children: Thomas, William, George, Nancy, Sally, Catherine, Mary & Molly

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Richmond County - from 1692 to 17?? - records show Anthony Carnaby, John Waugh, Col. Nathaniel Pope, George Erwin, Jno Weele, etc.    We will continue to check out Richmond / Rappanock County to see if we can find more records. 


Northern Veales - (Westmoreland / Stafford  Counties)

STAFFORD COUNTY was formed from upper portions of  WESTMORELAND COUNTY in 1664. As initially created, it included all the land from the Potomas River westward to the dividing ridge of the Patomac Rappahannock watersheds.  

PARISHES  - In Westmoreland Co were Copeland Parish and Washington Parish.  In Stafford County, Stafford Parish and Choatanck Parish. 

1.    Maurice Vele1 Veale birth date unknown. Maurice died 1695 in Washington Parish, Westmoreland Co., VA.   He married Dorothy (Unknown) Veale in Gloucester Co.?, VA, ca 1660.  

1669 Westmoreland Co. -  Morris Veale Morris Veale to get money from Morgan James (Ralph's database)
1672 Oct Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale John Quigley unto Morris Veale for a valuable consideration, the within mentioned land  (Ralph's database)
3 Feb 1672/3, Westmoreland County Court Records, p. 346a

Dorothy Veale (found by Ralph)

Depositon of Jonathan Towers, aged 29 yeares or thereabouts, saith Dorothy Veale called Mrs Elonor Quigly Irish whore and Irish bitch and Irish witch and Irish Hagg and Irish baud and "if I had you heere I would stame  you under my feete", signed by Johathan Towers - Elionor Towers, aged about 19 yeares, saith the same that her husband saith.  Sworn before John Washnton, John Lord, 30 April, 1673.  Recorded
Feb. 1677 Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale found guilty by jury, must pay Martin Fisher 800 pounds of tobacco
1677  (June) Westmoreland Co - Morris Veale order for attachment idem vs Morris Veale (Ralph's database)
1677 - 25 July Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale attachment (Ralph's database)
1677 - 26 Sept Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale more on attachment (Ralph's database)
1677 Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale Fisher vs. Veale, 80 pounds of tobacco (Ralph's database)
1678 Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale court order re search  (Ralph's database)
1679 Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale Morris gets judgement against F. Lincoln 20 gallons molasses (Ralph's database)
1682 Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale Morris Veale vs. Hyatt - dismissed     (Ralph's database)
1682 Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale John Hales servant to Morris Veale complains that beings hired to Veale surreptitously for fower  yeares and being extremely ill used, humbly desires to be put in the care of other person till master appears at next court, and it appearings to this court that the servant is abused, the court orders Hales to abide with Danll Ocany till the next court. (Ralph's database)
1686  - 25 Aug Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale Morris Veale gets 160 pounds of tobacco for being a witness - 25 Aug 1686 (Ralph's database)
1687 Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale Morriss Veale vs. Anthony Rawlins, dismist (Ralph's database)
1687 Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale Morris Veale pay 300 pounds (Ralph's database)
1687 Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale Thomas Monjay vs Morris Veale, dismist (Ralph's database)
1687 Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale Morris did inventory of estate (Ralph's database)
1687 - 27 Jul Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale Morris .... 424.... as his securities (will) (Ralph's database)
1687 - 31 Aug Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale Idm. as attorney Ja. Cravens vs. Morris Veale.  The defendent being arrested to this court and not appearing the court grant an order aainst the sherriffe and grant the sherriffee as attachment against the estate of Morris Veale -(Ralph's database)
1687 - 28 Dec Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale Morris Veale vs John Newton the plaintiff being subpoenaed as a witness against Robert the court orders Newton to pay 80 pounds of tobacco - (Ralph's database)
1690 Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale served on jury (Ralph's database)
1690 Westmoreland Co. - Maurice Veale summons - case involving Francis James, John Washington and Elizabeth Lord (Ralph's database)
1690 Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale BC Butler received 320# of tobacco for giving evidence for Mr. Hyatt.(Ralph's database)
1690/1 - 11 Jan Westmoreland Co. Order Bk, 1690-1698, Part 1, comp'd by John F. Dorman, p. 7 Maurice Veale caused Anthony Rawlins to  be summoned to show cause why execution should not issue against him for 272 pounds of tobacco due by order of this court,  1687/8 for his charge as an evidence between the defendant and Anthony Carnaby.  For that Rawlins did not appear, the said judgement is received. {p.21 - Lewis Markam, atty of Mrs Joanna Pope, executor of Mr. Thomas Pope vs Anthon Canaby.  p. 41 - Athony pleaded the act of Limitations which is allowed, case dismissed}
1691 Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale M. Veale is order certificate for one wolf's head kild with a gun Jan last - Sept 1691 (Ralph's database)
1692 - 7 Nov Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale T. Klnight vs Morris, case dimissed - 7 Nov 1692 - (Ralph's database)
1692 - May Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale Morris is sworn in as grand jurer for current year - (Ralph's database)
1693 - 27 Jul Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale Quissenbery vs Morris Veal, dismist -  (Ralph's database)
1695 Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale - Virginia Northern Neck Land Grants, Vol. 1, 1694-1742, comp'd by Gertrude E. Gray, 1988 purchased land ca 1695 in Washington Parish, Westmoreland Co., VA. The 200 acres are now a part of the Birthplace property of George Washington.    
1695 Westmoreland Co. - Morris Veale - Westmoreland Deeds & Wills, No. 2, 1690-1699, abstr'd & comp'd by John F. Dorman, 1965, p. 62a/63a. Will of Morris Veale of Westmoreland Co. and Washington Parish, dated 3 Oct 1695. Land and property divided "betwixt" 3 sons, Morris, John and William when "they arrive at the respective age of 21, unless my wife shall happen to remarry. Then my sons shall be of age at 16 years. Also names dau. Amey - 2 cows and 1 gray horse; dau. Elenor, 2 cows and a mare; dau. Mary, 4 cows - all to be delivered at the day of her marriage - loving wife and executrix, Dorothy. (more exact wording below concerning the sons and wife only)
Same as above Westmoreland Co., Deeds & Wills No. 2, 1691-1699, p. 62a  (from Sid Sandifer via e-mail)

(found FHL microfilm #34268)


In the name of God amen I Morris Veale of the county of Westmoreland and Washington Parish being very Sick and weak of body but of Perfect mind & memory make and ordain this my last Willand Testament in manner and form following Revoking all other Will and Testament by me formally made.
Imprimis I give and bequeath my immortal Soul in unto the hands of my maker & Redeemer from whence I receive the same, and my body I commit to my mother Earth of which it was formed and made to be decetly intered at the discretionof Exrs or Extx hereafter named and as to my worldly Goods I give and bequeath in manner and form as followeth & Secondly I give and bequeath my Land and plantation I now live upon to be equally divided between my three Sons, Morris, John and William to be possessed by them when they sahll arrive at the respetive age of 21 unless my Wife shall happen to marry, then it is my will my said Sons shall be of Age at 16 years ----, otherwise, if she continues as Widow to live work and remain with her untill they arrive at the full age of 21 and in case of mortality of any of these Sons aforesaid the Survivor or Survivors to Possess any enjoy what is here given. ...................
1697 Westmoreland Co. - Morice Veal heirs -(Northern Neck Land Grants, 1694-1742, Vol. 1, comp. by Gertrude E. Gray, pub. 1988) (adj. land line) Tobias Butler of Westmoreland Co....on Pope's Beaver dam adj. Gerard Fitzgerard, Ambrose Backster, Br. to  Grovelly Run,........ Morice Veal.
1697 Westmoreland Co. - Heirs of Maurice Veale Northern Neck Land Grants, Vol. 2 (Heirs of Maurice Veale who d. 1695)  same as above   (from Ralph database)
29 Aug. 1706 (Received the following records from Rick)
John Frederick Dorman, "Westmoreland County, Virginia Order Book 1705-1721, part one 1705-1707" (Washington, D. C.: by author, 1990)   p. 57 (p. 37 of original record)
It was commanded by Burdett Ashton, Gent., late Sheriff, that hee should have the body of Thomas Newton at this Court to answer Dorothy Veale in a plea of debt for (blank) and the Sheriff made return cepi corpus, but for that Newton failed to appeare, conditionall order passed agt. the Sheriff for the debt. At the instance of Burdett Ashton as attachment is granted him agt. the estate of Thomas.
25 Aug. 1706 Ibid, p. 60 (p. 38a of original record) Dorothy Veale acknowledged Tho: Thorn, Gent., to bee her attorney in all matters relating to her in the Court
#2 - 26 May 1708 John Frederick Dorman, "Westmoreland County, Virginia Order Book 1705-1721, part two 1707-1709," (Falmouth, Virginia: by author, 1991) p. 39 (p. 87a of original record)  John Williams, servant to Dorothy Veale, being presented before this Court to give judgment when hee would bee tythable, the Court do adjudge him twelve yeares of age.    William Pew, servant to Dorothy Veale, being presented before this Court to adjudge his age in order shee migh know when he would bee tythable, the Court do adjudge him to be sixteen yeares of age.
#3 - 27 Apr. 1715 John Frederick Dorman, "Westmoreland County, Virginia Order Book 1705- 1721, part five 1713-1715," (Falmouth, Virginia: by author, 1992)p. 70 (p. 260a of original record)     It is ordered that the Sheriff doe summon Dorothy Veale to answer the petition of John Williams preferr'd against her for corn and cloaths.
  25 May 1715 Ibid. p. 86 (p. 268a of original record) John Willliams preferr'd his petition against Dorothy Veale for corn and cloaths to which she produced a discharge from John for the same, which being adjudg'd to have been obtained contrary to law, it is ordered that Dorothy doe pay him tenn bushells of Indian corn, thirty shillings in money or the value thereof in goods and one well fixed musquett or fuzee with costs.

  Maurice Vele (Veale) and Dorothy (Unknown) Veale had the following children:

1         i. William2 Veale. He married Sarah Tucker Netherton, dau. of John Tucker and widow of Henry Netherton.  Jean
2         ii. Elenor Veale. she married 1st William Smoot, 2nd William Trigg and 3rd John Austin and died in 1747 in St. Mary's Co., MD - from Fredric , his  line.
       iii. Mary Veale.
3       iv. Amy Veale.
4         v. Morris M. Veale
5        vi. John Veale, will probated 1718/19, Westmoreland Co., VA -  m. Deliverance   -

Unknown Veale Records        Veale/Veal Census Records


#1 - William2 Veale (Maurice Vele1married Sarah (Unknown) Veale.  From Jean:   Sarah, dau. of John Tucker and widow of Henry Netherton.  Sarah and Henry had at least one daughter, Hestor, who married Worden Pope, son of Nathaniel Pope III and one son, Henry Netherton Jr. who sold land in 1736.  From Dorman's Abstracts of the Court Orders of Westmoreland County)

1712 - 20 May Westmoreland Co. - William Veale sold land  in Cople Parish, Westmoreland Co., VA.
1717/18 30 Jan Westomoreland Co., VA Order Bk. 1705-1721, p. 334a. (from Rick) Thomas Lee, Esqr., brought suite against Wm: Veale and Sarah his wife, administratirix of Henry Netherton, for 1875 pounds of tobacco.  Sarah was the widow of Henry Netherton. 
1724 - 24 Feb Westmoreland Co. - William Veale sold land  in Westmoreland Co., VA
1723 Westmoreland Co. - William Veale William Veale was one of several witnesses of a land purchase in Westmoreland Co.: Others were, Henry Lee, Henry Netherton, Richard Coleman. Land leased from Frans: & John Awbrey, his son.
1730 - 25 Nov Westmoreland Co. - William Veale purchased land in Westmoreland Co., VA. Land of Jernew's, now Gawin Corins; John Garrett's land, now   Garrot Davis & others; Sheppard's land, now Wm Veal & his wife and others - signed by Wiginton, Lee, Davies, Wm Veale, Sarah(signed with mark) Veale.
1737 Maryland Calendar of Wills, Vol. VII, p. 235 Will of William Veale -  St Mary's County, MD

(Note- Richmond County, Virginia Court Orders, 1721-1752 - An Every Name Index, abst'd & pub'd by TLC Genealogy lists a William Veale - see Unknown Veale Records)

Veale/Veal Census Records

#3 - Amy2 Veale (Maurice Vele1) (received from John Kent and Lisa Bass.)

She married Humphrey II Pope. Humphrey is the son of Humphrey Pope and Elizabeth Hawkins. {Kathleen's Line - Humphrey & Elizabeth Pope} 

Amy Veale and Humphrey II Pope had the following children:  See Pope/Muse (Mewes) Page for more information about this family.   John's ancestors.

i. Ann3 Pope. She|he married Mr. Conditt.
ii. Sophia Pope.
iii. Sarah Pope.
iv. Mary Pope.
v. John Pope.
vi. Humphrey III Pope.


RAPPAHANNOCK COUNTY became RICHMOND COUNTY CA 1691 and then back to RAPPAHANNOCK COUNTY CA 1701, then back to  RICHMOND COUNTY CA 1710.  They couldn't decide until that time, I guess - but it stayed Richmond after that. 

SPOTSYLVANIA COUNTY formed from Essex/King & Queen/King Willaim Counties in 1721.

CAROLINE COUNTY formed from Essex/King & Queen/King William Counties in 1728, pre-1728 records from parent counties


Unknown Veale Records            Veale/Veal Census Records


#4 - Morris Veale, d. 1750
(I have set up a separate page for Morris & his descendents)


#5 - John2 Veale (Maurice Vele1) was born in Westmoreland Co., VA ca 1680.   He married Deliverance (Unknown) Veale.
John is mentioned as "security" for sister Eleanor Veale Smoot and as guardian for Mary Smoot.

1712 Westmoreland Co. - John Veale sold land 20 MAY 1712 in Cople Parish,
1 Oct. 1713  

(from Rick)

Westmoreland Co - John Veale

 John Frederick Dorman, "Westmoreland County, Virginia Order Book 1705- 1721, part five 1713-1715," (Falmouth, Virginia: by author, 1992)p. 13 (p. 267 of original record)

Augustine Higgins brought suite at August Court last against John Veale for shooting and killing with a gun loaded with powder and lead a bald faced mare of the value of 1000 pounds of tobacco to the damages of the plaintiff 200o pounds of tobacco. The defendant appeared and for plea said nothing. At this Court is was commanded the Sheriff that he should summon twelve. The Sheriff returned Samuel Damouvel, Roger Wigginton, Samll: Earle, John Hobson, John Dunkan, Joseph Carr, Stephen Selfe, James Byard, Charnock Cox, Youell Watkins, James Lamkin, and George Lamkin (who) say Wee find for the plaintiff and damage 1100 pounds of tobacco. The Court are of opinion the plaintiff have judgment on the verdict, with costs. John Veale prayed an appeale to the ninth day of the next General Court which is granted, he entering into bond to prosecute his appeale, Francis Spencer security fo the appellant.  William Smoot being summoned as an evidence in the suite bewteen Augustine Higgins and John Veale on behalfe of the plaintiff and haveing attended tenn days, it is ordered Augustine doe pay him 400 pounds of tobacco, with costs William Trigg being summoned as an evidence in the suite between Augustine Higgins and John Veale on behalfe of the plaintiff and haveing attended eleven dayes, it is ordered Higgins pay him 400 pounds of tobacco with costs.
21 Nov 1718 Westmoreland Co. - John Veale
made will.  Will written 21 Nov 1718, proved 25 Feb 1718/19. Sons John Jr. & Morris, Daughter, Susan. "three sons to be at age at 18 if his wife remarried, otherwise at 21".    "Bequeathed land in Stafford Co. to sons John Jr. & Morris. Both died without heirs. Executors, brother Humphrey Pope and Caudry Vaughn, trustees.
  Rick
Prince William Deeds B: 252-255
Bond Veal to Richard Backburn states that the will of John Veal dated 21 Nov 1718 stated for his land to be divided between his sons John and Morris Veal equally, and if both die without heir, then to the next heir at law. 
  Rick
Prince William Deeds L:110-115
Of Henry Elley & Esther his wife to William Butler.  Land was originally taken up by William Harrison and later regranted to said Harrison and Lewis Markham.  Markham sold his share to John Redman who sold it to Humphrey Pope, John Veale and Morrice Veal and it was equally divided between them of 5 Nov 1718, the middle part falling to John Veale who left the said land by his will dated 21 Nov 1718 to be divided between his sons John and Morrice who dying both with heirs it fell to Bond Veale he being the heir at law to his said brothers John and Morrice, who sold to the said Henry Elley.

John Veale and Deliverance (Unknown) Veale had the following children:

        i. John Jr.3 Veale. Is stated to died without issue    (1723 - John Veale -Stafford Co. Rental Rolls, (CD-Rom 136,  Colonial America, Pre-1790, Census Index, Tax Lists)
       ii. Morris Veale. Is stated to died without issue
11    iii. Bond Veale - inherited his father's lands after the death of both of his brothers
       iv. Susan Veale.

PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY formed from STAFFORD/KING GEORGE in 1731.  Stafford's lands north of Chapawarnish Creek were cut off in 1730 to form part of Prince William County.


See Georgia Veals for more info about the Veals who went south

Unknown Veale Records       Veale/Veal Census Records
Morris Veale (d. 1750) & his descendents
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