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23 Aug 1998 - Ian Gilchrist Lucraft, 136 Wadsley Lane, Sheffield, S6 4EE, England
0114-234-7153

mailto:[email protected]

Here is my welcome introduction. My first memories of family stories
were at my maternal grandfather's knee. Donald Gilchrist (born 1890)
came from Glasgow, and he told me all the stories he knew about his
families travels. But over the last 25 years, it has been my father's
family (Lucraft) that I have been researching and so have only begun to
scratch the records, with the help of a couple of researchers in
Edinburgh, and my own access to LDS records here is Sheffield.

Donald's father, Alexander John Gilchrist, born Govan 1856, was
illegitimate, and this cast a shadow over his knowledge of his roots.
In fact the story was that he had been born out of wedlock on Islay, and
given to a kind couple to bring up. It now appears that his mother,
Flora Gilchrist, born ca. 1835, was the daughter of Donald Gilchrist,
(born Kildalton ca. 1800) and Catherine McDonald, (born ca. 1807,
Kintyre). Donald and Catherine raised their grandson, and other
grandchildren, at Kilnaughton, and at Tigh na Traghe, on Islay.

Beyond that, going back in time, is where I now have to get to work.

Alexander John Gilchrist married Henrietta Auvers Brown, the daughter of
a sea-captain, in 1888, in Kinning Park, Plantation, Govan. Her family
is another branch of Scottish families, including the McMillans and
Watsons of Campbelltown.

Several of their children died young, only three surviving to
adulthood. Jimmie Gilchrist fought with the Seaforth Highlanders in the
First World War and then emigrated to Detroit, where he raised a family,
who still thrive in America. Jessie Gilchrist married a butcher in
Glasgow, who sadly died a few months later; she lived on in Glasgow to
old age, and died about 1980.

Donald Gilchrist, my grandfather, fought in the cavalry, with a
sword(!), in the First World War, before the cavalry was disbanded and
he was wounded while serving with the Highland Light Infantry. He
married after the war and settled in Epsom, Surrey, the home of the
Deerby, where my family still live.

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05 Oct 1998 - John Gilchrist, University of Canberra, PO Box 1
BELCONNEN ACT 2616 AUSTRALIA mailto:[email protected]
Tel: 61+6 201 5643 - Fax: 61+6 201 5198

John Gilchrist, my great grandfather migrated from Port Ellen and set up a general store in Woodend about 50 kilometres north of Melbourne in Victoria.
His father William is listed in successive Islay censuses (1841,1851) as an
agricultural labourer, then a crofter. His son John migrated at about age
25 and John's eldest son Aneas and his second son William (my
grandfather)were both educated as civil engineers the former becoming city
engineer of Brisbane and after whom Gilchrist Avenue in that city is named.
Like many Australian migrant stories the migrating generation endured much
hardship and struggle to better the circumstances of their offspring.

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05 Oct 1998 - Dan Woodrow, Comox, BC mailto: [email protected]

Recenty I have found a branch of my family to be from Killarrow
parish the town of Bowmore on the Isle of Islay. Hugh Gilchrist and
his wife Janet McEacharn migrated to Canada. They found themselves
in Sunnidale Township, Simcoe County Ontario with Campbells,
McEacharns and other families from Islay.

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16 Oct 1998 - Ted Larson mailto:[email protected]

I have been going over your website and have a question or two. I currently am studying church records for Kildalton and did find the marriage of your gggggrandfather Angus. I would suggest that a daughter Isabella was born to Angus 12/20/1791 at Kildalton. The place name was Giol.
Now for some questions.


Alexander Gilchrist married Mary Livingston in 1789
Donald Gilchrist married Isabel Cameron in 1789
Duncan Gilchrist married Catherine McNabb in 1789
Robert Gilchrist married Mary McQuarie in 1789
John Gilchrist married Diana Mcneil in 1799 and My direct line
Betty Calder in 1807. Children of this family came to Fenelon,
Victoria, Ontario Canada.


Do you suppose these men could all be brothers. Do you have anything to
go on to know their families. The church records before 1789 are in
terrible conditions and mostly illegible.

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11 Dec 1998 - Bob Ward, East Lansing, Michigan - mailto: [email protected]

We are descendants of the MacArthur and Gilchrist clans who came to the
Bruce Peninsula and Owen Sound areas of Ontario, Canada around 1820. We
have very little information regarding the Islay connections. Is there any
help out there? I am a grandson for Mary MacArthur Brown who spent most of
her life between Owen Sound and Winnipeg, Manitoba. She also has first
cousins living in Sarnia and Stratford, Ontario. I am the first born
American from this family.

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11 Dec 1998 - Steve Gilchrist, Seattle - mailto: [email protected]

bob,
i know of a couple of people who may fit your criteria...

i've had correspondence with a gentleman named Lloyd Gilchrist who lives in
Owen Sound. he tells me of a Larry Gilchrist at 58-2300 Oakmoor Dr. S.E.
Calgary Alberta T2V 4N7

he had also mentioned another fellow who has Islay roots, he would be Neil Gilchrist, R.R. # 3, Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada N4K 5N5

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22 Dec 1998 - Marg McLaughlin - mailto:[email protected]


I have 2 lines of GILCHRISTs that go back to ISLAY.

In 1853 James GILCHRIST immigrated to Thorah township, Ontario county,
Ontario with his wife Mary Hunter and children Isabella, Donald, Florah,
Neil and Iarmeh. They had Ewen Hunter, Duncan, James and Esther after
settling in Ontario. Living with them at the time of the 1861 census
was Lauchlan Gilchrist, a labourer of 13 years who was born in
Scotland. James was a farmer.
James GILCHRIST and Mary Hunter were married January 21, 1841 in
Kildalton, Islay. I believe that James was the son of Donald Gilchrist
and Bell Cameron who were living in Taycarmagon when James was baptised
in 1803.
This is where the second GILCHRIST line comes in. Mary Hunter was the
daughter of Lachlan Hunter and Flora GILCHRIST. Lachlan and Flora were
married in Gleneigadale in 1810. Flora died in Glenaegadale in 1881 at
the age of 90. Her parents were Ronald GILCHRIST and Janet McCuaig. I
would love to hear from anyone who is researching the same lines.

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2 Jan 1999 - Dan Woodrow, Comox, BC mailto: [email protected]

I thought the group might be interested in this reference. Some of
you may already be aware of this book and it's relationship to the
Arygle Patent in New York State.

TITLE: Alexander Gilchrist, 1721-1778, and his descendants : Islay,
Argyleshire, Scotland to Argyle, Washington County, New York, U.S.A.
/ AUTHOR(S): Gilchrist, Frederick A. (Frederick Alexander), 1915-
(Main) PUBLISHED: Glens Falls, N.Y. : F.A. Gilchrist, c1986.
DESCRIPTION: xv, 250 p. : ill. ; 28 cm.
NOTES: Includes indexes.
SUBJECTS: Gilchrist family.
Gilchrist, Alexander, 1721-1778--Family.
LC CALL NO.: CS71.G4691986
DEWEY CLASS NO.: 929/.2/0973 ED: 19
FORMAT: Book
LCCN: 86-215065

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03 Jan 1999 - Colin Fraser, Victoria, BC - mailto: [email protected]


1. CAMPBELL - William Campbell and Mary HUNTER settled in Woodville,
Victoria Co. Ontario in abt. 1840. Their children: Archibald (m. Margaret
McMillan) Duncan (m. Elizabeth Douglas) ANNE (m. John Calder GILCHRIST)
Elizabeth (m. John Calder)
2. CARMICHAEL - Neil Carmichael and Ann McARTHUR emigrated in the 1830's to
Woodville, Ontario. Their children: Christy (m. Neil Smith) Ann (m. Duncan
MacDougall) MARGARET (m. William GILCHRIST) Mary (m. Duncan Campbell) Duncan (m. Katie Campbell)
3. GILCHRIST - James Gilchrist and Ann CALDER arrived in Victoria County,
Ontario abt. 1834. Some of their children are William, Margaret (m. Donald
Carmichael) Donald, JOHN C. (m. Anne Hunter CAMPBELL) Alan, Ronald, James
(m. Catherine Gilchrist) Neil, Diana (m. Alexander McNabb)
4. GILCHRIST - Neil Gilchrist and Mary HUNTER came from Glenegedale,
Kildalton, Islay to a farm in Sullivan Township near Owen Sound, Ontario in
1854. Their chidren: WILLIAM (m. Margaret Carmichael) James, Flora, John,
Peter (m. Mary McKinnon) Donald, Margaret, Neil, Anne, Mary, Flora(2) Dugald

My grandparents were Lauchlan GILCHRIST (son of William G. and Margaret C.)
and Margaret Ann GILCHRIST (dtr. of John C. Gilchrist and Ann Hunter Campbell)
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03 Jan 1999 - Rob Gilchrist - Spokane, WA - mailto: [email protected]

Neil Gilchrist and Mary Hunter Gilchrist.
They are not in my ancestoral line, but my research has
revealed some facts (hopefully reliable) about them.
Neil: b. 1786, d. 7/12/1876, m. Mary Hunter 1/22/1817
Mary: b. 1801, d. 3/15/1874
They came to Canada from Glenegedale, Islay, on the ship
"Three Bells" in 1853.
Their children were: William, b. 1818; James, b. 1821, d.
1902; Flora Ann, b. 1823; John, b. 1825; Donald, b. 1836, d.
1/27/1918; Anne, b. 1839, d. 8/18/1922; Mary, b. 1842.
If you would be interested, I have some information on the
descendants of some of these children; but, unfortunately,
none for William and Margaret (Carmichael).

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05 Jan 1999 - Brian Seddon, |Queensland, Australia - mailto: [email protected]

The issue of James WOODROW & Flora CAMPBELL were:
Duncan WOODROW b Grolais, Islay, 1800, mar Bowmore 1823 to Catharine
GILCHRIST;
John WOODROW b Octovullin, Islay, 1802, mar Bowmore 1820 to Catharine
LOGAN;
Alexander WOODROW b Kilmeny, c1806, mar Bowmore 1840 to Marrion JOHNSTON;
James WOODROW b c1809, mar Bowmore 1826 to Marrion MacMILLAN,
settled in Oro Township, Ontario;
William WOODROW b Ardlaroch, Islay, 1810;
Archibald WOODROW b Waussminm, Islay, 1812, mar Bowmore 1840 to Catharina
CAMPBELL,
settled in Medonte Township, Ontario;
Neil WOODROW b Cruach, Islay, 1814, mar Bowmore 1838 to Helen CRAWFORD;
Christian WOODROW b Cruach, Islay, 1816.

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20 Feb 1999 -Kenneth MacTaggart, mailto:[email protected]

My ancestor (g-g-g-grandfather) Donald McTaggart (1767-1842) appears to
have married Janet Gilchrist (1772-1818). They had a son John McTaggart
but he may have died young. This certainly happened in the Kildalton and
Oa area. Does that fit with any of your researches?

The long-standing burial ground of the people in that area is at Kilnaughton, one mile west of the village of Port Ellen. However people from the old days could rarely afford a headstone so that's not often traceable.

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04 Mar 1999 - Janet McMillan-Smith - mailto:[email protected]

Also my Gilchrist interest is with Nancy (Ann) Gilchrist married to Robert
Campbell from
Lurabus (The OA--Islay).

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01 Sep 1999 - Kevin - mailto:[email protected]

Gravestone inscriptions:
Margaret McAlester, of Glenegidale, d. 1789, age 89, wife of a Gilchrist.
Her son, Ronald Gilchrist, of Glenegedale, a tenant, d. 1806, age 7-.
His son Angus Gilchrist and wife Janet (Campbell). She died 1831.

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15 Sep 1999 - Ken Harrison, North Vancouver, Canada - mailto:[email protected]

In 1992 I was sent personal transcriptions by a researcher, Alice Burke, in
Ontario, of gravestones in "Mud Lake Cemetery", Carden Township, Victoria
County, Ontario, as being persons stated on the MIs as coming from Oa,
Islay. The following were on stones near to each other:

All on one stone:
Andrew McNabb, born about 1801, died 25 May 1889, age 88
Mary, born about 1806, died 21 Aug 1889, aged 83
Betsy, born about 1831, died 10 Nov 1921, aged 90
Andrew, born about 1843, died 28 Mar 1875, aged 32
Isabel, born about 1849

Separate stone near to the one above:
Colin McNabb, (1836-1920)
Elizabeth Gilchrist, wife (1853-1913)
Annie (1870-1921)
Andrew (1878-1940)
Rose (1886-1953)
Calvin A. (1888-1970)

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06 Oct 1999 - Dan Woodrow, Comox, BC mailto: [email protected]

I am tracking down another branch of my Islay family and I was
wondering whether you might have this couple in your family tree? John
CURRIE born 10 Jul 1795 Scotland died 7 Feb 1883 Stayner, Simcoe County,
Ontario Married: 23 Dec 1823 Bowmore, Argyl, Scotland to Catherine
GILCHRIST Catherine GILCHRIST born 8 Sep 1796 Died 1838.

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17 Oct 1999 - Toni Sinclair - mailto:[email protected]

To all people with interest in Gilchrist:

The photocopier was working poorly in the Research Archives, so I only got the first page of "How Islay, Alberta Got it’s Name" taken from the Lindsay Paper, 1908

"Duncan Gilchrist of Islay, Alberta reported that several families living at Islay, Victoria County going west settled at the Alberta spot and called the village Islay. However, this is a previous part of the history of the origin of the name, Islay, in the Canadian West that is evidently unknown to Mr. G.

Several years ago, Col. Hughes, M.P. met Dan Gilchrist and asked him why he was going to the United States for a living, and Mr. Gilchrist replied that there was nothing to do in Canada. Whereupon Col. Hughes volunteered to select for him a homestead in the Great Canadian West if he (Mr. G.) would settle upon it. This Mr. G. consented to do and Col H. gave him a choice of 2 homesteads which he indicated and guaranteed that a station would be build within a mile of his home.

Mr. G. took the homestead and years later when the railroad came along, a station was erected within 200 yards of the G. homestead. The first name was "island Lake".

One day, Mr. R.J.McKenzie, son of William McK., who was superintendant of Construction, was passing through and met Mr. G, and recognizing him as coming from Islay in Victoria County, he suggested the name should be Islay, rather than Island Lake. Another station on the Canadian Northern Railway had already been named Islay. McKenzie had this changed, and had the station in the little Alberta settlement from Victoria County changed, and the name of the post office was also chanaged to correspond with the station.

The article in the paper of 1908 goes on to state that when Mr. G. returned to VBictoria County on a visit that as he was talking with Co. Hughes, Miss Jamieson came along and Hughes introduced them and they were mutually attracted
and finally culminated in marriage, and that Mr. Gilchrist owns nearly 2000 acres of good farming land immediately adjoing Islay and that Alex G. along with Mr. Elliiott and old Cartwright's boy keeps store and also the telephone office:
Mr. Jas. G. runs a livery while Miss Lillie and Mr. Charlie G. one teaches school and the other farms

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03 Jan 2000 - Ted Larson - mailto:[email protected]

Here is a pretty good reason for all the Gilchrist information in the
area of Fenelon.. John Gilchrist, who died in Scotland, had by the
1840's, 5 sons in Fenelon. Of these Ronald ( 4 sons, 7 daughters) and
Donald (7 sons, 3 daughters) had large families born between 1845 and
1878. I'm attaching excerpts from a letter that I received from Belle
Gilchrist (granddaughter of Ronald) this year. There are a few items in
this letter that I feel may be questionable. "A little is family
folklore."

Dear Ted
Ronald Gilchrist 1808-1889 son of John Gilchrist and Elizabeth Calder
was a sailor, crossed the
ocean several times between the Island of Islay, off the west
coast of Scotland and Canada. Islay is an island about 20 miles by 20
miles with hills up to
1600 feet, locks rivers.

The Gilchrist farm located where the Glenegedale airport is now, not far
from Port Ellen and
across from Bowmore. Bowmore has a curious circular church built in
1767 by Campbell Lord of Islay. Killnaughten cemtetery 8 or 9 miles from
Port Ellen has many
McDougalls, Gilchrists, Calders, and McMillans stones and an old
chapel in ruins and broken stones. Only the word spouse is on most
tombstones so families are
hard to trace, however one was found that is on the family tree.
"This is the burying place of Ronald Gilchrist 1794 (I believe book says
1808 - Ted), tenant of
Glen I Dale (Norse spelling) also here lies Margaret MacAllister,
his mother who died April 27, 1789 at aged 89 years." Another stone to
James Gilchrist died in
1843 aged 37 years. In 1972 Donald McMillan from Glenarm spent
time walking around Port Ellen and district. (He is not living now).

Ronald Gilchrist was married to Janet Cameron (1824-1908) from the Isle
of Islay in Canada.
Janet's father had died so the uncles (Camerons) took his wife, a
Douglas and four children with them to Canada. (1. John, 2. Laughlan, 3.
Janet and 4, James).
The mother was ill and unable to continue the voyage up the St.
Lawrence, so was left with her oldest son, John in Lachine, Quebec where
she later died and was
buried there. John Cameron was taken by a friend, the head of a
lumber company to the Mississippi, USA, where a town Cameron is named
Cameron after him
(folklore?- Ted). Janet was 7 years when they crossed the ocean in 1831.

Laughlan was 11 years.

In 1843 most of John Gilchrist's family came to Canada except John and
Elizabeth and one daughter, Margaret
who was married to John Campbell in Scotland (Islay). One child
Mary had only one hand and lived with Donald at Islay corner but owned
50 acres of land off
Ronald's 200 acres near Glenarm. Donald bought Lot 16, Con 2, 200
acres, Fenelon Township from the crown in 1843. In 1846 he sold 100
acres to his half brother
John. In 1859 Donald granted 6 1/4 square rods at N. West angle of
his 100 acres to RS no 2, Fenelon for the erection of a log school. It
was here that Ronald's
family in the 50's and 60's attended school where no one was
allowed to speak a work of Gaelic. A new brick school was built in 1972.

Donald's half brother John died rather suddenly. He was married to
another Gilchrist, a sister
to John Calder Gilchrist, leaving one daughter Diana who married
Alex McNabb. Diana's family was Ann Patterson, Winnepeg, Jessie Minty,
Lindsay, Margaret
Hancock, Lindsay, Colin McNabb, Manitoba, and John McNabb, Manitoba.

Another brother of Ronald and Donald was James who died while harvesting
at Donald's. He was
the first buried in Glenarm Cemetery in Ronald's plot. The deed for
the cemetery is March 11,1867 but the land was sold in 1865.

The Donald Gilchrist family moved west to Alberta in 1910 (some went
earlier , note from Ted)
to a spot near the border with Sask, which is named Islay. Donald
died in 1908 and his wife Mary McDougall was brought back later for
burial in Glenarm cemetery.
Lizzy Gilchrist and her aunt Mary (one hand) stayed in Woodville,
Ontario and Mary is buried on the Alexander Gilchrist plot in the
Glenarm cemetery. He owned a
farm in the Glenarm district but always lived with Donald. He was
in the Black Watch before coming to Canada. No wife here.

I don't know where the mother, Elizabeth (Calder) Gilchrist was buried.
As you pointed out she
was at Donald's for some time. When she first came she brought
enough money to buy horses to use instead of oxen. If she was buried in
Canada, I think, over
the years, I would have heard of it. I personally knew so many of
the descendants, the John and Christie Smith's. He was my mother's
brother. She was a
Murchison. The Colin McMillans. Big Laughlin's descendants. Some living
in
Lindsay. Some didn't even know her name, but most knew of the uncles
who went south, John's
brothers. John who had married Diana McNeil and Elizabeth Calder.

We were, and Bessie and Bella (Hughie McFadyen's daughters,
grandchildren of Ronald Gilchrist)
were, always told not to eat choke cherries and drink milk at the
same time as that's what they blamed for James' death (brother of Ronald
and Donald). Those
farms had a lot of choke cherries along the fences. I'm hoping that
you can fit some of these stories into your family tree. Our aunts,
Jessie Liscum and Annie
(daughters of Ronald), a nurse, who had retired to Victoria first
sent us what information they had. In fact I saw a picture of their
uncle John Cameron who
went to Mississippi. It was framed, so saved.

Sincerely Yours,
Belle Gilchrist

(I took out some parts which did not pertain to family in Canada.
Laughlin Cameron, Islay,
Woodville, was married to Anne Gilchrist, a sister of Ronald. Janet
Cameron (neice of Laughlin was married to Ronald Gilchrist). Don't ask
me what the cousin
relationship would be. Two of Janets brothers went south to Alabama and
Mississippi and the third, Laughlin stayed and had a large family in
Elgin Township. I found
traces of one in Alabama but have not found the other. - Ted)

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18 Feb 2000 - Susan Visser - mailto:[email protected]

MARRIAGES OF OA
26 Aug abt 1764 Finlay MacCuaig & Anne Gilchrist

ISLAY CENSUS 1841

GLENASTLE

Henry McCuaig 27 farmer
Jane 45
Esther 21
Marry 15
Peter Gilchrist 14 male servant
Wm. Gilchrist 16 Ag lab
Allan McDougall 18 ag lab

KILNAUGHTON CEMETERYS, ISLAY, SCOTLAND {There is a group of four
separate cemeteries quite close together}

-Erected by Donald McCuaig Cragabus in affectionate remembrance of
his brother Alexander who died 27 Feb 1867
Also of his father Dougald McCuaig who died 29 Oct 1873 and his
mother Catherine Gilchrist who died 28 Feb 1885

-Here lies John McCuaig late tenant of Cragabus who died ? and of his
wife Jane Gilchrist who died ?

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21 May 2000 - Gaye Weston - mailto:[email protected]

I am tracing my Gilchrist family in Islay with a great deal of help from a cousin who discovered she has family living in Canada and am having trouble finding a link from Balychatrician Gilchrists in Oa and the Gilchrists in Glenegedale.

My ggggrandfather was John Gilchrist (born in Glenegedale around
1760/70) - married Ann Gilchrist. I have not been able to confirm all
of their childrens names and I have not been able to find out anything
of Ann's family.

My gggrandfather was John Gilchrist (born around 1796 - Port Ellen)
married Isabella McEwan in 1817 approx.
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01 Jun 2000 - Monta Salmon Stirling, Alberta, Canada - mailto:[email protected]

I would like to know just a little bit more about the family of John MacCuaig and Jane (or Jean) Gilchrist

This much I know. They were married 3 Mar 1804 Kildalton, Argyll and had the following children
Janet chr 18 Mar 1805 Assabus, Kildalton
Peter chr 21 Jun 1807 Assabus, Kildalton
Ann chr 21 Oct 1809 Assabus, Kildalton married Archibald Campbell
Ellespy (or Elizabeth) chr 19 Apr 1812 Assabus, Kildalton married Walter Campbell
Ronald chr 8 Jul 1814 Assabus, Kildalton
? chr 4 Oct 1816 Assabus, Kildalton
Duncan chr 13 May 1819 Assabus, Kildalton
Mary chr 15 Jan 1822 Assabus, Kildalton

Does anyone know anything more about the father John (one of the most common McCuaig names on Islay)? Did he come to Ontario?

The mother Jane (or Jean) is the daughter of Ronald Gilchrist and probably Mary McDougall. It is also possible that her mother may have been Janet (or Jessie McCuaig). Jane died either 1857 or 1867 and is buried in Greenwood Cemetery, Owen Sound, Ontario.
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