Yes, Sheree---that wasn't the point.  I too had ancestors on both sides and
we all know slavery was wrong.  I was "reviewing" Edward Ball's book which
has been on the best seller list and is strictly about S.Carolina.  Felicia
----- Original Message -----
From: Sheree Robinette 
To: Felicia K. Gourdin ; 
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 12:35 PM
Subject: RE: Treason? And Slavery...


 Come on people. Isn't this enough debate about this subject! My maternal
> ancestors are from Pennsylvania, and my paternal ancestors are from
Georgia
> and South Carolina. Of my Pennsylvania ancestors, at least one was killed
in
> battle. Another died at Andersonville. My paternal ancestors suffered much
> the same fate. One of my 3rd great grandfathers was wounded at Antietam
and
> spent the balance of the war at Point Lookout prison in Maryland. Another
> was at Camp Douglas, IL for much of the war. The war for southern
> independence has come and gone.Slavery happened, butit is a thing of the
> past. Can't we study and learn from our ancestors without all this
> bickering???
>
> If anyone has information on the following southern families. Please let
me
> know.
> DURST, HIERS, PITTS, HOWARD, WOMACK, HUNTER, DELOACH, CHAMBERS, SMITH,
> BUSBY, HANNAH
>
> Sheree
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felicia K. Gourdin [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 1999 18:11
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Treason? And Slavery...
>
>
> Please do not put Edward Ball in the class with all slaveholders in SC.
> Remember that the Balls and the Austins and the Laurens were not just
> slaveholders, but were slave traders who owned ships and paid the Africans
> to kidnap their own people and sell them. Several SC slaveholders were in
a
> sense "married" to their slaves and acknowledged as much in their wills
and
> provided a good education for their children up North and land for their
> mistress and never married a white woman.  This may offend some of the
> Charlestonians, but, I think these were much more admirable than Edward
> Ball.  I frankly found the book offensive.  Felicia
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Douglas/Ungaro 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 8:09 AM
> Subject: Re: Treason? And Slavery...
>
>
> > Quoting an earlier post:
> > ... Our forefathers told the citizens how they were to handle such
> matters;
> > to rid ourselves of them.
> > Which is what the War for Southern Independence was all about, not
> slavery.
> > The Industrial Revolution was bringing slavery to an end.  It was over
in
> > Europe.  It would soon end in the Americas.
> >
> >     It amazes me that so many genealogy and Southern state lists are
still
> > debating slavery (usually in a rather strange way to my thinking), not
to
> > mention the Civil War Between the States (take your pick).  Don't both
> > topics have their own lists? But that probably doesn't matter.  These
> issues
> > seem embedded - for some, unresolved - in our consciousness, as well as
> our
> > genealogy.
> >
> >    With regard to the post tidbit above, I would like to say - the end
of
> > African slavery in the Americas was not 'just around the corner'.  And
> some
> > related discussion - not only here - stops just short of debating the
> status
> > of Black people - whether some people 'like', 'approve of' us, or not,
> etc.
> > And often minimizes what Black chattel slavery was, and was about.  And
as
> > most of us on this list probably know, South Carolina is and will
continue
> > to be one of the most important regions in the U.S. and in the Americas
> when
> > it comes to getting the records straight on Slavery.  The information/
> > records many South Carolinians still hold onto (and hopefully will
share)
> is
> > crucial history.
> >
> >     Black chattel slavery in the Americas did not end until 1888, in
> Brazil,
> > by a decree of the Queen.  I think she snuck and did it while her father
> was
> > out of the country or something.  In Brazil in the 1880s, the Parliament
> > (their Congress) was debating whether to extend African Brazilian
slavery
> > for another 50 YEARS, which - had this succeeded - would have continued
it
> > into the 1930s, and perhaps longer.
> >
> >     Cuba was the last country in the Caribbean, and the Spanish-speaking
> > Americas, to abolish chattel slavery - in 1886.  They continue to deal
> with
> > their legacy, also.  And so do we, in the States and throughout the
> > Americas.  And frankly, thanks to persons like Ed Ball of Charleston and
> New
> > York City ("Slaves in the Family"), I am optimistic some of us will make
> the
> > effort to 'work this history out'.
> >
> >     Thanks, Marian Douglas
> >     Skopje, Macedonia
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > >
> >
>
>
> >
> >
>

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