Whut good is all them records if ya can't get to the location?...wait until
they become digitized and on-line before you use up email space announcing
them...puh-lease?!

Person with poor eyesight and small memory...{:)

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At 08:14 AM 4/10/99 -0700, you wrote:
>SCROOTS-D Digest				Volume 99 : Issue 77
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>Today's Topics:
>  #1 Re: FARMER, HUDSON etc.              [[email protected]]
>  #2 Ordinary                             ["Steven J. Coker
(coker@geocities.]
>  #3 NARA Revolutionary War Records       ["Steven J. Coker
(coker@geocities.]
>  #4 Re: Carlile from ?                   [fred carlile
  #5 NARA U.S. Army Commands, 1784-1821   ["Steven J. Coker
(coker@geocities.]
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>______________________________X-Message: #1
>Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:07:31 EDT
>From: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: FARMER, HUDSON etc.
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>I also have a Mary Ann Farmer in Society Hill, SC, She was the mother to my 
>great-grandmother Izenia Farmer b. abt 1870. where was your Mary Ann.
>thanks,
>Diane Weatherford Brown-Payne formerly from Darlington, SC now living in NM
>
>______________________________X-Message: #2
>Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:01:05 -0400
>From: "Steven J. Coker ([email protected])" 
>To: [email protected]
>Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Ordinary
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>Extract from a letter to Johann Heinrich Böckmann in Sievern.  
>By John Andreas Wagener (1816-1876)
>Charleston, South Carolina
>November 8, 1840
>
>"In case of death the law here is as follows: A man is elected for four
years by
>the voice of the people. His title is 'Ordinary.' The ordinary is responsible
>for the last wills of deceased persons. He appoints an administrator from a
>group of close relatives, trusted friends, and highest creditors. He does
so not
>at random, but he obeys established laws. After an administrator has been
>appointed, three people are chosen to assess under oath the value of the
estate
>to the best of their knowledge. The assessments are sealed and attested by a
>notary, then handed over to the ordinary. Then the administrator has to find
>three people who give bond for double the amount of the estate's value. The
>assessors are excluded from giving bond.
>
>After this has been settled, the administrator receives order to sell the
estate
>either complete or in parts, depending on circumstances and necessity. The
>incoming money is earmarked for the length of one year plus one day to
cover any
>debts. At the beginning and at the end of each year, all creditors are
requested
>by means of the public newspaper to send in their bills. Before the year has
>ended, no penny must be paid because the estate may be too small to cover all
>debts. In this case, all creditors have equal rights. If the settlement of
the
>estate is prevented by law suits or the like, the administrator has to file a
>report at the ordinary's."
>
>The full text of Wagener's letter is shown in the following publication.
>
>South Carolina Historical Magazine
>Volume 100, Number 1, January 1999.
>
>Published by:
>South Carolina Historical Society
>100 Meeting Street
>Charleston, SC  29401-2299
>843-723-3225
>
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>______________________________X-Message: #3
>Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:55:52 -0400
>From: "Steven J. Coker ([email protected])" 
>To: [email protected]
>Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>Subject: NARA Revolutionary War Records
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>War Department Collection of Revolutionary War Records
>(Record Group 93) 1709-1915, 809 cu. ft.
>http://gopher.nara.gov:70/0/inform/guide/10s/rg093.txt
>
>93.1 ADMINISTRATIVE HISTORY
>
>Finding Aids: Mabel E. Deutrich, comp., and Howard H. Wehmann, rev.,
Preliminary
>Inventory of the War Department Collection of Revolutionary War Records,
PI 144
>(1970).
>
>Related Records:
>Records of the Veterans Administration, RG 15.
>Records of the Bureau of Accounts (Treasury), RG 39.
>Naval Records Collection of the Office of Naval Records and Library, RG 45.
>Records of the Bureau of the Public Debt, RG 53.
>General Records of the Department of State, RG 59.
>Records of the Adjutant General's Office, 1780's-1917, RG 94.
>Records of U.S. Army Commands, 1784-1821, RG 98.
>Records of the Office of the Secretary of War, RG 107.
>Records of the Accounting Officers of the Department of the Treasury, RG 217.
>Records of the Continental and Confederation Congresses and the
>Constitutional Convention, RG 360.
>
>RECORD TYPES            RECORD LOCATIONS          QUANTITIES
>Textual Records         Washington Area           809 cu. ft.
>
>COLLECTION HISTORY
>
>Most records in War Department custody were destroyed by fire, November 8,
1800.
>Many of the remaining Revolutionary War records were lost during the War of
>1812. As a result there were, until 1873, few records for the period
before 1789
>in War Department custody. In 1873 Secretary of War William Belknap purchased
>for the Federal Government the papers of Timothy Pickering, who between
1777 and
>1785 had been a member of the Board of War, Adjutant General of the
Continental
>Army, and Quartermaster General; the papers of Samuel Hodgdon, Commissary
>General of Military Stores for several years during the war; miscellaneous
>contemporary papers; and some minor groups of records and single record
items.
>In 1888 these records were transferred to the Department of State. By acts of
>July 27, 1892 (27 Stat. 275) and August 18, 1894 (28 Stat. 403), Congress
>authorized the transfer to the War Department of all military records for the
>Revolutionary War period then in the custody of other Executive branch
>departments. These military records were transferred between 1894 and 1913
From
>the Departments of State, the Interior, and the Treasury. In 1914 and 1915,
>under authority of an act of March 2, 1913 (37 Stat. 723), the War Department
>made photographic copies of Revolutionary War records in the custody of
public
>and private institutions in VA, NC, and MA. The entire collection was
>transferred to the National Archives in 1938. Although its contents span the
>period 1629-1915, the bulk of the information deals with the period 1775-83.
>
>93.2 GENERAL RECORDS 1709-1915 (bulk 1775-83) 187 lin. ft.
>
>93.2.1 Federal records
>
>Textual Records: Selected volumes of the "Numbered Record Books" series
>(1775-98), including letters sent, mainly by Brig. Gen. Edward Hand, 1778; an
>orderly book, October 9-18, 1776; records of Capt. Thomas Mighill,
1775-77; and
>miscellaneous records relating to soldiers and activities in New York State,
>1781-82. Miscellaneous numbered records ("Manuscript File"), 1775-84, with
>indexes. Miscellaneous unnumbered records, ca. 1709-1913, consisting
mainly of
>returns, registers of muster rolls, account books, lists of officers and
>enlisted men, and reference aids compiled by employees of the War Department
>after the Revolution for use in providing reference service on the original
>records. Unidentified indexes, n.d. Lists and other reference materials
relating
>to the Revolutionary War records, n.d. "Printed Books Relating to the
>Revolutionary War," n.d. Card list of general information, n.d.
>
>Microfilm Publications: M847, M853, M859, M926, T42.
>
>Related Records: Additional volumes of the "Numbered Record Books" series,
some
>with indexes, UNDER 93.3, 93.4.1, 93.5.1, and 93.6.
>
>93.2.2 State records
>
>Textual Records: Photographic copies, 1914-15, of records (ca. 1775-83) in
the
>custody of VA, NC, and MA, with indexes, consisting of minutes of boards,
>including boards of war; reports and letters sent and received by state
boards
>of war, governors, and military officers; court records; prize vessel
accounts;
>rolls and returns; and receipts for money and stores. Certified copies, 1851,
>1853, of South Carolina legislative enactments (1778-1836).
>
>93.3 RECORDS RELATING TO MILITARY ORGANIZATION AND SERVICE 1775-1912 (bulk
>1775-83) 2,689 lin. ft.
>
>Textual Records: Selected volumes of the "Numbered Record Books" series
>(1775-98), including letters sent by Brig. Gen. Edward Hand, Adjutant
General of
>the Continental Army, 1781-83; letters sent by Gerrit H. Van Wagenen, Deputy
>Commissary of Prisoners, 1779-81; orderly books, 1775-83; a British orderly
>book, 1779; oaths of allegiance and fidelity and oaths of office, 1778;
>commissions and resignations, 1775-80; and rosters of state and Continental
>troops, 1775-83. Card indexes to orderly books, oaths, and commissions,
1775-83.
>Records relating to military service, 1775-83, with indexes. Compiled
military
>service records, 1894-ca. 1912 (2,240 ft.), with indexes. Copies, ca.
1905, of
>rolls of officers of the Continental Army (1775-79). Registers of army
returns,
>1775-83; and of muster rolls and payrolls, 1777-83. Returns of a British
brigade
>of foot guards, 1776-79; and of the 6th Massachusetts Battalion, 1779-80.
>British orderly books, 1777.
>
>Microfilm Publications: M246, M257, M860, M879, M880, M881, M913, M920,
M922, 
>M1051.
>
>Related Records: Additional volumes of the "Numbered Record Books" series,
some
>with indexes, UNDER 93.2.1, 93.4.1, 93.5.1, and 93.6.
>
>93.4 RECORDS RELATING TO SUPPLIES AND STORES 1775-1814 (bulk 1775-83) 9
lin. ft.
>
>93.4.1 Selected volumes of the "Numbered Record Books" series (1775-98)
>
>Textual Records: Records of Quartermaster General Timothy Pickering,
consisting
>of letters sent, 1780-87; a register of letters received, 1781; and
>miscellaneous accounts and receipts, 1781-83. Records of Commissary
General of
>Military Stores and Assistant Quartermaster Samuel Hodgdon, consisting of
>letters sent, 1778-84; a ledger, 1777-98; receipts, 1778-89; and records of
>disbursements, 1780-81. Records of Capt. Charles Russell, Assistant Deputy
>Quartermaster, VA, 1781-82. Account book of Thomas Grant, Assistant
>Quartermaster, PA, 1780-83. Records of the Quartermaster General's
Department,
>including ledgers, 1776-79; estimated requirements for quartermaster stores,
>1780-93; and records of receipts and disbursements, 1780-84. Records of the
>Commissary General of Military Stores Department, including ordnance ledgers,
>1780-85; and records of receipts and disbursements, 1780-81. Ledger of
accounts
>of the United States with various states for military stores, 1780-83.
Records
>of military stores issued and received, 1777-84. Quartermaster records of
>miscellaneous units, 1779-83. Records of accounts, Assistant Commissaries of
>Issues, 1776-83, 1786. Ration record, Eastern Department, 1776-77.
>
>Related Records: Additional volumes of the "Numbered Record Books" series,
some
>with indexes, UNDER 93.2.1, 93.3, 93.5.1, and 93.6.
>
>93.4.2 Other records
>
>Textual Records: Registers and wrappers to letters received, 1776-1814.
>Miscellaneous records of the Quartermaster General's Department, 1775-83.
>Quartermaster returns, 8th and 9th Massachusetts Regiments, 1779-82.
Ledger of
>military stores for the main army in the field, 1780-83. Ledger of
Quartermaster
>General accounts, 1780-83. Records of disbursements by the Commissary
General of
>Military Stores, 1780-81. Orders for deliveries by the Superintendent of
>Military Stores, 1799-1801. Return of Quartermaster property, 1782.
>
>93.5 RECORDS RELATING TO MILITARY PAY AND THE SETTLEMENT OF INDIVIDUAL
ACCOUNTS
>1775-1803, 1 lin. ft.
>
>93.5.1 Selected volumes of the "Numbered Record Books" series (1775-98)
>
>Textual Records: Records of Paymasters General and Commissioners of Army
>Accounts John Pierce and Joseph Howell, consisting of letters sent,
1784-89; and
>receipt books, 1783-85, 1787-90. Ledgers and records of accounts, 1775-92,
>including records of accounts of Quartermaster General Timothy Pickering,
>1781-90; and of the Pay Office, Paymaster General's Department, 1783-84.
Records
>of pay and service, VA, NY, and GA, 1781-87. Monthly registers of
quartermaster
>accounts settled, 1780-84. Receipt books of Assistant Commissioners of Army
>Accounts John White, Annapolis, MD, and George Reid, Charleston, SC, 1785-86.
>
>Related Records: Additional volumes of the "Numbered Record Books" series,
some
>with indexes, UNDER 93.2.1, 93.3, 93.4.1, and 93.6.
>
>93.5.2 Other records
>
>Textual Records: Ledgers of accounts, 4th New York Regiment, 1775-77; and 1st
>Regiment, British Brigade of Foot Guards, 1777-79. Return of unreceipted
money,
>1798-1803. Lists of certificates issued for depreciation of pay for
>Revolutionary War service, NH and PA, n.d. Records relating to pensions and
>claims for pay, n.d.
>
>93.6 RECORDS RELATING MAINLY TO NON-REVOLUTIONARY WAR ACTIVITIES 1774-1895
(bulk
>1775-1833) 1 lin. ft.
>
>Textual Records: Selected volumes of the "Numbered Record Books" series
>(1775-98), consisting of a ledger of personal accounts of B.H. Phillips,
>1778-83; and a memorandum, account, and orderly book, Capt. Thaddeus Weed's
>company, 2d Connecticut Regiment, 1781, 1785-1813. Personal accounts and
>military records of Capt. Eleazer Curtis, 4th Connecticut Regiment,
1775-1833.
>Copies, ca. 1895, of records pertaining to soldiers and activities in New
>Hampshire (1629-1774). Miscellaneous printed records, 1774-1830. Music book,
>n.d.
>
>Related Records: Additional volumes of the "Numbered Record Books" series,
some
>with indexes, UNDER 93.2.1, 93.3, 93.4.1, and 93.5.1.
>
>--
>
>______________________________X-Message: #4
>Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:58:48 -0500
>From: fred carlile 
>To: [email protected]
>Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: Carlile from ?
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>MIME-Version: 1.0
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>
>Hello Troy, The William Carlile I am looking for was in Waccamaw(Kingston
Co.-now
>HorryCo.) SC in the 1800 census. His age was between 26 and 45 (born from
1755 to
>
>1774).He was with two male children (0-10) and (10-16) and two
females(0-10) and
>(16-26) his wife?.Three other Carlile/Carlisles in the area were
>John-1800,Widow-1810,
>Alexander-1790. William was gone from here by 1810. Does any of this match
up.
>Regards,
>Fred
>
>[email protected] wrote:
>
 Dear Fred:
      When I wrote you before concerning my William N. (Niller) Carlile I
did
>
>______________________________X-Message: #5
>Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:01:20 -0400
>From: "Steven J. Coker ([email protected])" 
>To: [email protected]
>Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>Subject: NARA U.S. Army Commands, 1784-1821
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>Records of United States Army Commands, 1784-1821
>(Record Group 98) 1784-1822, 48 cu. ft.
>http://gopher.nara.gov:70/0/inform/guide/10s/rg098.txt
>
>98.1 ADMINISTRATIVE HISTORY
>
>Finding Aids: Maizie Johnson and Sarah Powell, comps., "Preliminary
Inventory of
>the Records of United States Army Commands, 1784-1821," NM 64 (1966).
>
>Related Records:
>Records of U.S. Regular Army Mobile Units, 1821-1942, RG 391.
>Records of U.S. Army Coast Artillery Districts and Defenses, 1901-1942, RG
392.
>Records of U.S. Army Continental Commands, 1821-1920, RG 393.
>Records of U.S. Army Continental Commands, 1920-1942, RG 394.
>Records of U.S. Army Overseas Operations and Commands, 1898-1942, RG 395.
>
>RECORD TYPES           RECORD LOCATIONS         QUANTITIES 
>Textual Records        Washington Area           48 cu. ft.
>
>98.2 RECORDS OF GEOGRAPHICAL COMMANDS 1786-1821, 12 lin. ft.
>
>98.2.1 Records of geographical commands, 1798-1813
>
>History: U.S. Army under unified field command prior to June 14, 1798.
>From that
>date until May 14, 1800, Maj. Gen. Charles Cotesworth Pinckney commanded a
>district that embraced GA, TN, NC, SC, and VA, with Brig. Gen. James
Wilkinson
>commanding troops in the north and west. After Pinckney's district was
>abolished, Wilkinson assumed command of the army and divided it into 11
>geographical districts, with an informal alignment into western and eastern
>departments. Reorganized February 15, 1809, into Northern, Southern, and
Western
>Military Districts. Southern and Western Districts consolidated as Southern
>Department, June 1810, and Northern District designated Northern Department.
>
>Textual Records: Letters sent and received by Maj. Thomas Cushing, commanding
>Troops on the Mississippi, 1799-1800. Order book, General Pinckney's
district,
>1800. Orders and muster reports of an expedition to the international
boundary
>between the United States and New Spain (Mexico), along the Sabine River, LA,
>1806-7. Order book, Northern Department, 1812-13. Issuances, Southern
>Department, 1812-13.
>
>98.2.2 Records of military districts, War of 1812
>
>History: United States divided into 9 military districts by War Department
>General Order, March 19, 1813; increased to 10, July 2, 1814; reduced to 9 by
>consolidation of 4th and 10th Districts, January 1815. Military districts
>abolished, May 17, 1815, and superseded by 10 military departments, divided
>equally between Divisions of the North and South.
>
>Textual Records: Discharge and furlough book and list of officers, 1st
Military
>District, 1813-15. Order book, 2d Military District, 1814-15. Letters
received,
>order books, courts-martial proceedings, registers of furloughs and
discharges,
>lists of officers, and company returns, 3d Military District, 1813-15; and
order
>book, Commander of the Defense of the City and Harbor of New York, 1812-13.
>Letters sent and issuances, 4th Military District, 1813-14; and issuances and
>reports of the adjutant and inspector general, 4th and 10th Military
Districts
>(consolidated), 1815. General orders issued by Maj. Gen. Wade Hampton,
>commanding 5th Military District, April-May 1813. Letters sent and order
books,
>6th and 7th Military Districts, 1813-15. Letters sent, issuances, order
books,
>and miscellaneous records of the 9th Military District and Right Wing (1st
>Division), Northern Army (under unified command), 1814-15; records of the
Left
>Wing (2d Division), Northern Army, 1814; and consolidated order book, 4th
>Brigade of Detached Militia, 1812-13, and District of Oswego, Sackett's
Harbor,
>and Ogdensburg, 1813. Detail orders, 10th Military District, 1814.
>
>98.2.3 Records of the Division of the North
>
>History: Established May 17, 1815, with headquarters at Brownsville, NY.
>Abolished in the reorganization of the field army into Eastern and Western
>Departments, May 1821. Consisted of 1st-5th Military Departments.
>
>Textual Records: Letters sent, 1818-21. Order books, 1815-21. Register of
>officers, 1815. Consolidated order book, 1st and 3d Military Departments,
>1818-21. Order books and discharge registers, 3d Military Department,
1815-19.
>Order book, 4th Military Department, 1815-19. Letters sent, order books, and
>discharge registers, 5th Military Department, 1815-21.
>
>Related Records: Additional records of the 1st, 3d, and 4th Military
>Departments, 1817-21, in Records of the Eastern Division and Department,
RG 393,
>Records of U.S. Army Continental Commands, 1821-1920.
>
>98.2.4 Records of the Division of the South
>
>History: Established May 17, 1815, with headquarters at Nashville, TN.
Abolished
>in the reorganization of the field army into Eastern and Western Departments,
>May 1821. Consisted of 6th-10th Military Departments.
>
>Textual Records: Letters sent and order books, 1815-21. Letters sent,
1817-21,
>and order books, 8th Military Department, 1815-19. Letter book, Maj. Gen.
Edmund
>P. Gaines, 1814 (9th and 4th Military Districts), 1815 (7th Military
District),
>and 1817-19 (Division of the South, 7th Military Department, and Post of
>Fernandina, East Florida).
>
>Related Records: Order book, 9th Military Department, June 1819-June 1821, in
>Records of the Western Division and Department, RG 393, Records of U.S. Army
>Continental Commands, 1821-1920.
>
>98.2.5 Records of army posts
>
>Textual Records: Records of Castle Island (Fort Independence), Boston, MA,
>consisting of an order book, 1786-87, and garrison records, 1803-15. Order
book,
>Fort Johnston, NC, 1795-1811. Order books and provision returns, garrison
at New
>Orleans, 1806-16.
>
>98.3 RECORDS OF ARMY UNITS 1784-1822, 31 lin. ft.
>
>98.3.1 Records of artillery units
>
>Textual Records: Order and company books, Regiment of Light Artillery,
1808-21;
>1st Regiment, 1803-15; 2d and 3d Regiments, 1812-15; and Corps of Artillery,
>1814-22.
>
>98.3.2 Records of infantry units
>
>Textual Records: Inspection return, American Regiment of Foot, May 1784.
Company
>and order books, 1st Regiment, 1785-88; 3d Regiment, 1796-1802; 1st-7th
>Regiments, 1802-15; 9th-14th, 16th, 18th, 20th-23d, 25th-27th, 30th-35th,
37th,
>38th, 40th-43d, 45th, and 46th Regiments, 1812-15; Maj. Zebulon M. Pike's
>Consolidated Regiment, 1805-11; and 1st, 3d, 7th, and 8th Regiments, 1815-21.
>
>98.3.3 Records of other units
>
>Textual Records: Records of the Legion of the United States, consisting of
>orders, 1792-93, and enlisted returns, 1789-92. Company and order books,
1st and
>3d Regiments of Riflemen, 1812-15. Company books, Regiment of Light Dragoons,
>1812-15.
>
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