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Subject: Re: Inappropriate and Off Topic
From: Faye Dyess
Date: August 18, 1998
I am Faye Dyess, I speak for no One but Faye Dyess, I felt the need to make
a comment, I did so. Isn't this getting slightly blown out of shape?
Faye (the one and only)
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> From: Steven J. Coker
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Inappropriate and Off Topic
> Date: Tuesday, August 18, 1998 6:56 PM
>
> Cathy,
>
> I'm assuming from your message that Faye Dyess is your pseudonym? Before
you
> read this, let me say that you shouldn't take any of this personally.
I'm
> responding to you in public because you posted your comments in public.
So far,
> this is a very minor matter in my estimation. I hope it stays that way.
> First, this type of discussion is OFF TOPIC in the Forum. Do not post
messages
> like this in the Forum in the future. Do not respond to this message in
the
> Forum. Send any response to this message and any future messages of this
type
> directly to the Forum Manager, not via the Forum. The manager's email
address
> is shown at the bottom of every Forum message with instructions to this
effect.
>
> The SCRoots group is usually on-topic, quite friendly, and polite.
However,
> every once in a blue moon we have "flare ups" where somebody finds that
they
> don't like something about how the Forum is operating and they decide to
let
> everyone know about it. Most do it without much forethought and are just
> "venting", or writing carelessly, or they misunderstand something and
> over-react. A few do it in a calculated manner with certain objectives
in
> mind. The latter is somewhat like a "rebellion" or "terrorist action" in
> cyberspace intended to disrupt, cause harm, or subvert participants to
leave and
> join another group.
>
> When I detect an attitude which seems inclined to stirring up controversy
or
> heated argument in the Forum, I try to discourage the disruptive
behavior. If
> discouragement doesn't work, then I prefer to drive them away rather than
let
> them cause disruption. Peace and harmony in the Forum is more desirable
than
> attaining maximum participation. Disruptive and rude behavior will
usually draw
> a strong reaction from me. Such is very much unacceptable in SCRoots.
And, it
> wastes too much of my time, which I don't like and for which I have
limited
> patience.
>
> The recent exchange was the occasional flare-up, and it has been a very
minor
> one, so far. If that was your first message posted to the list, then you
made a
> bad start. Starting off by posting negative criticism is not good. When
it is
> negative criticism of the Host, it is plain rude. That is just like a
guest at
> a party or gathering who loudly criticizes how the host has managed the
event.
> Both are rude behavior. In the party scenario, the person is not likely
to be
> invited to future events. In the Forum, they are likely to be asked to
correct
> their behavior or leave.
>
> I can understand someone new to the group not knowing what is considered
> acceptable behavior for the group. I've participated in many other
message
> groups over the years. Some of the non-genealogy groups welcomed
argument and
> criticisms and such. That isn't the case in SCRoots due to the nature of
the
> group. You might want to review the Forum archives and web site to get a
better
> flavor of the topics and discussion in SCRoots. The archive's address is
shown
> on the SCRoots web site.
>
> It is not appropriate behavior in the SCRoots Forum to post negative,
public
> criticisms of other people's messages. ON TOPIC messages which add, or
have
> meaningful questions, or just want to have further ON TOPIC discussion
about
> something published in the Forum are welcome. That is what the Forum is
for.
> But, OFF TOPIC negative criticisms about other peoples messages, are not
> appropriate or welcome.
>
> The message to which I responded was a rude, public criticism of a
message from
> the Forum Manager about Forum Policy. It is generally bad form to
criticize a
> Forum Manager in the Forum that they manage. If you wish to offer your
comments
> or opinions on how I manage the Forum, you should do so in direct mail to
me.
> Not by posting public, OFF TOPIC messages in the Forum.
>
> Thanks for your cooperation,
>
> Steven J. Coker
> SCRoots Forum Manager
>
> PS Of the thousands of emails posted in SCRoots since it began
operations, a
> very tiny fraction have been policy reminders or management related
messages. A
> review of the archives will confirm this.
>
>
> Cathy Ailstock wrote:
> > Wow, I have only been on this list for a few days. Is it always this
way? Can there
> > never be even the slightest variation from "the rules?" I am presently
on 17 lists
> > and this is the first one that I have seen more corrections on what
should and should
> > posted on the list, than I have postings. And before we go there, yes
I have read
> > the rules, Steven. But....
> > Sincerely,
> > Cathy Ailstock (the one you rebuffed on my first and only posting to
this list.)
> >
> > >
> > > And others are just rude.
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > Faye Dyess wrote:
> > > > Some people must use so many words to say so little.
> > > > Faye
>
>
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