Re: Inappropriate and Off Topic - Faye Dyess
Subject: Re: Inappropriate and Off Topic
From: Faye Dyess
Date: August 18, 1998

I am Faye Dyess, I speak for no One but Faye Dyess, I felt the need to make
a comment, I did so.   Isn't this getting slightly blown out of shape?

Faye (the one and only)

> From: Steven J. Coker 
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Inappropriate and Off Topic
> Date: Tuesday, August 18, 1998 6:56 PM
> Cathy,
> I'm assuming from your message that Faye Dyess is your pseudonym?  Before
> read this, let me say that you shouldn't take any of this personally. 
> responding to you in public because you posted your comments in public. 
So far,
> this is a very minor matter in my estimation.  I hope it stays that way. 

> First, this type of discussion is OFF TOPIC in the Forum.  Do not post
> like this in the Forum in the future.  Do not respond to this message in
> Forum.  Send any response to this message and any future messages of this
> directly to the Forum Manager, not via the Forum.  The manager's email
> is shown at the bottom of every Forum message with instructions to this
> The SCRoots group is usually on-topic, quite friendly, and polite. 
> every once in a blue moon we have "flare ups" where somebody finds that
> don't like something about how the Forum is operating and they decide to
> everyone know about it.  Most do it without much forethought and are just
> "venting", or writing carelessly, or they misunderstand something and
> over-react.  A few do it in a calculated manner with certain objectives
> mind.  The latter is somewhat like a "rebellion" or "terrorist action" in
> cyberspace intended to disrupt, cause harm, or subvert participants to
leave and
> join another group.
> When I detect an attitude which seems inclined to stirring up controversy
> heated argument in the Forum, I try to discourage the disruptive
behavior.  If
> discouragement doesn't work, then I prefer to drive them away rather than
> them cause disruption.  Peace and harmony in the Forum is more desirable
> attaining maximum participation.  Disruptive and rude behavior will
usually draw
> a strong reaction from me.  Such is very much unacceptable in SCRoots. 
And, it
> wastes too much of my time, which I don't like and for which I have
> patience.
> The recent exchange was the occasional flare-up, and it has been a very
> one, so far.  If that was your first message posted to the list, then you
made a
> bad start.  Starting off by posting negative criticism is not good.  When
it is
> negative criticism of the Host, it is plain rude.  That is just like a
guest at
> a party or gathering who loudly criticizes how the host has managed the
> Both are rude behavior.  In the party scenario, the person is not likely
to be
> invited to future events.  In the Forum, they are likely to be asked to
> their behavior or leave.
> I can understand someone new to the group not knowing what is considered
> acceptable behavior for the group.  I've participated in many other
> groups over the years.  Some of the non-genealogy groups welcomed
argument and
> criticisms and such.  That isn't the case in SCRoots due to the nature of
> group.  You might want to review the Forum archives and web site to get a
> flavor of the topics and discussion in SCRoots. The archive's address is
> on the SCRoots web site.
> It is not appropriate behavior in the SCRoots Forum to post negative,
> criticisms of other people's messages.  ON TOPIC messages which add, or
> meaningful questions, or just want to have further ON TOPIC discussion
> something published in the Forum are welcome.  That is what the Forum is
> But, OFF TOPIC negative criticisms about other peoples messages, are not
> appropriate or welcome.  
> The message to which I responded was a rude, public criticism of a
message from
> the Forum Manager about Forum Policy.  It is generally bad form to
criticize a
> Forum Manager in the Forum that they manage.  If you wish to offer your
> or opinions on how I manage the Forum, you should do so in direct mail to
> Not by posting public, OFF TOPIC messages in the Forum.
> Thanks for your cooperation,
> Steven J. Coker
> SCRoots Forum Manager
> PS  Of the thousands of emails posted in SCRoots since it began
operations, a
> very tiny fraction have been policy reminders or management related
messages.  A
> review of the archives will confirm this.
> Cathy Ailstock wrote:
> > Wow, I have only been on this list for a few days.  Is it always this
way?  Can there
> > never be even the slightest variation from "the rules?"  I am presently
on 17 lists
> > and this is the first one that I have seen more corrections on what
should and should
> > posted on the list, than I have postings.  And before we go there, yes
I have read
> > the rules, Steven.  But....
> > Sincerely,
> > Cathy Ailstock (the one you rebuffed on my first and only posting to
this list.)
> > 
> > >
> > > And others are just rude.
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > Faye Dyess wrote:
> > > > Some people must use so many words to say so little.
> > > > Faye

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