Subject: Re: in toto From: Steven J. Coker Date: November 17, 1998 As usual, I edited the previous message for brevity. The omitted parts were not needed for anyone to understand the request to which I was responding. That being: "Many of us are not as computer literate as others and have no idea how to cut and paste these messages.... Any help would be appreciated." Since you've posted your full message, I'll now offer some further comment. You stated: "That message came to me on several different lists..." That is the reason why I posted the reminder to the Forum regarding SCRoots Policy against forwarding of chain letter style messages like the one in question. There are thousands of different mailing list services such as this one. A typical list service has several hundred subscribers. Some services have thousands of subscribers. The message in question showed that it had been forwarded to at least the following 9 mailing lists. CLARKE-L FRYAR-L WAGONER-L small-L JOHNSON-L caldwell_l KYBATH-L SCLAUREN-L SCROOTS-L I'm confident that, like most chain letters, it eventually will find its way to many more mailing lists and will probably be circulated and recirculated again and again. Forwarding chain mail style letters is a violation of SCRoots Forum Policy and a violation of Rootsweb Policy. Rootsweb has declared that sending any message to more than 5 mailing lists generally constitutes SPAM. Chain letter style messages have a way of "snowballing" in cyberspace. Like a snowball rolling downhill, they grow larger each time they are forwarded. But, because of the nature of email, they also multiply themselves each time they are forwarded. Here is an example of what happens. Assume we start with a 2k chain letter style message. It is sent initially to to 5 mailing lists. Each list has a modest 100 subscribers each. INITIAL MESSAGE POSTED 2k x 5 Forums x 100 Copies/Forum = 1 Mb Server Traffic 1st GENERATION FORWARDING Assume 2 people in each Forum forward it to 1 more Forum. 5 Forums x 2 Forwarders/Forum = 10 People Forwarding 10 Forwarders x 1 More Forum/Forwarder = 10 More Forums 10 More Forums x 100subscribers/Forum = 1,000 New Copies By Forwarding rather than copy/pasting, the 2k message grows to a 4k message. 4k x 1,000 New Copies = 4 Mb More Server Traffic 2nd GENERATION FORWARDING 2 More New Forwarders per New Forum 10 Forums x 2 Forwarders/Forum = 20 People Forwarding 20 Forwarders x 1 More Forum/Forwarder = 20 More Forums 20 More Forums x 100subscribers/Forum = 2,000 More Copies By Forwarding rather than copy/pasting, the 4k message grows to a 6k message. 6k x 2,000 New Copies = 12 Mb More Server Traffic 3rd GENERATION FORWARDING 2 More New Forwarders per New Forum 20 Forums x 2 Forwarders/Forum = 40 People Forwarding 40 Forwarders x 1 More Forum/Forwarder = 40 More Forums 40 More Forums x 100subscribers/Forum = 4,000 More Copies By Forwarding rather than copy/pasting, the 8k message grows to an 8k message. 8k x 4,000 New Copies = 32 Mb More Server Traffic Etc., Etc., Etc., 1 4 12 32 --- 49 Mb In just 3 generations of "minimal" forwarding of a small message in this scenario the load on the mailing list server has been 49 Mb. Each additional generation of forwarding this chain letter message will increase the server load significantly. Also, many messages "bounce" due to timing errors, failed addresses, etc. So the messages will likely be sent multiple times to some subscribers increasing the real server load. Most of this work on the server will be wasted. Since the message will be completely off topic for most of the Forums it is forwarded to, most people will either ignore it or react hostilely at someone sending off-topic chain letters to them. The few who may benefit from the message are probably in the few Forums where the message was on-topic. The point here is two-fold. 1. Don't send chain letter style email. 2. Don't forward chain letter style emails. Each Forum has a specifically defined topic. Messages should not be sent to mailing lists unless they are On-Topic for that list. The sender should use good judgement in determining the most appropriate mailing lists where their messages will be most relevant to the topic. They should never "shot-gun" a message to a large number of mailing lists. Such "shot-gunning" is considered to be SPAM by Rootsweb. If someone has a message which they think merits broad spectrum publicity, there are other, better ways to achieve the goal. One of the best ways is to contact the publishers of newsletters like the Rootsweb Review and ask them to publish it in their newsletter. Another way would be to find an appropriate web site and ask the web site manager to post a notice on the site. If they want to distribute the message to mailing list services where the message would be Off-Topic, then they should first contact the manager of each such service and ask for permission to post an Off-Topic message. That is enough for now. It is 3a.m. and I need to get some zzz's before going to work. Steve Coker Forum Manager Pat Stoewe wrote: > This is the e-mail I sent Steve prior to the brilliant editing. Only > fair that I copy and paste the entire question from the beginning for > ya'll to see.... ==== SCROOTS Mailing List ==== Go To: #, A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y, Z, Main |