Re: Hamburg - Loy Mitchell
Subject: Re: Hamburg
From: Loy Mitchell
Date: March 17, 2000

Sir, I did not live in those days, nor was I trying to be precise, but to
give this gentleman an idea of where this town was located.  I was doing it
by present day standards and landmarks and not with a surveyors
tool....which I do not know the name of, but I'm sure you do.
Mr. Buoy, if I have misled you, I apologize.....I do want these folks on
this mediam to have their facts correct or they will start another world war
III and we certainly don't need that.

I apologize again and If I ever try to help another person on this list I
hope my hands will rot off.

Please have a good day.
-----Original Message-----
To: [email protected] 
Date: Friday, March 17, 2000 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: Hamburg

>    Please understand that I do not wish to start a public arguement, but I
>your information concerning Hamburg is misleading, and needs re-thinking.
>Your location of Hamburg is too limiting; perhaps a visit to the bottom
>back toward the  Savannah River would demonstrate the development of the
>not east of the highway, but west, along the river bank where, at least
>years ago, were the evidence of at least a half-dozen streets, Market
>being the first in, paralleling the river.  I believe you'd discover the
bulk of
>Hamburg was in that area.    There were at least 45-50 houses west of the
>railroad tracks, and perhaps a couple of dozen east of where the tracks and
US 1
>are, but by the river, not at the site of  Hamburg Industries and its
>to the north, Augusta Concrete Block.    They're located at the foot of
>Hill, named for the founder of Hamburg.    (Which is not to say there
>some habitation there; I don't know.)
>    Also, Hamburg was the terminus of the South Carolina Railroad, not "The
>Friend Express", which, on January 15, 1831, placed in service the first
>locomotive to haul a train of cars in regular service on an American
>railroad.    This locomotive was "The Best Friend of Charleston".    You've
>of combined the two, and I've never heard the term "Express" in conjunction
>either.    In any event, the rail yard was just north of the river, and
>east of where US 1 presently is, certainly not a half mile inland.
>A North Augustan in Northern Virginia
>P.S.:    Bouy:    I checked my copy of the 1841 "City Advertiser" (Read
>Directory") for Augusta, which included Hamburg.    Your folks weren't
>then, so apparently Wm H. Greene wasn't a resident of  Hamburg before he
>that same year and they must've come down later.    For what it's worth,
>not listed in the 1850 Edgefield census at
>Loy Mitchell wrote:
 Hamburg was in Edgefield County during your time period.  It is presently
 located down river from North Augusta, SC on the opposite side of US
 #1....Augusta Concret Block and TTX Hamburg Industries are presently
 on the spot where the old town sat near the river.  This was the ending
 point of the "Best Friend Express" the first railroad from Charleston to
 Savannah River (Hamburg).  It was once a very vibrant town of settlers
 an important it is nothing but commercial holdings.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Bouy Peeples 
 To: [email protected] 
 Date: Thursday, March 16, 2000 3:25 PM
 Subject: Hamburg

 >Does anyone know how to find out in which coulnty Hamburg, SC would have
 been in in 1850?  I assumed Edgefield but cannot find the family.  I am
 looking for Wm. H. Greene and his wife Georgia Ann B. Ioor Greene and
 two daughters Eloise Tucker Greene and Anna Louisa Greene.  It is
 that he may have been dead by then in which case the wife and daughters
 would have most likely gone back upstate.  Is the entire 1850 Census for
 on line somewhere?  Or could anyone that has a private copy of that
 look and see if they can be found.  I have Colleton and Beaufort and have
 read every page and they are not there.  What would be the corresponding
 county in GA. if they were across the state line and would that be on
 >Thanks for any suggestions.  This man has been a total brick wall and
 than the marriage notice there is no finding Wm. H. Greene who married in
 1841 in upstate SC.

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