Re: DAR membership invitations - James A. Miller, Jr.
Subject: Re: DAR membership invitations
From: James A. Miller, Jr.
Date: January 10, 2000

Lineage papers being personal property, of course one may inherit them; what
confuses some people is they think the right to join is inherited with the
papers and if one does not inherit the papers, they do not have the right to
join; from what I can tell, inheriting the lineage papers is an issue
independent of the right to join; but some non-members have confused the two
issues.  At least one good perspective member told me she did not have the
right to join because she did not inherit the papers.  If many non-members
think like her, that's a loss of good potential members.
----- Original Message -----
From: Faye L. Dyess 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: DAR membership invitations


 I have replied on the DAR question.  Some of your information is very
> confusing.  You can inherit lineage paper with Colonial Dames of the XV11
> Century, but that is certainly not the only way of joining.  In fact today
> most do not list for their papers to be inherited because they do not want
> to limit when relatives may join.
>
> If a  person doesn't inherit papers that just submit their own!!
>
> These organizations are working very hard to become more accessible and
> encourage prospective members to fill out their lineage papers.
>
> Below is my answer on DAR.DAR is a wonderful organization that is looking
> for new members.  Any member could have invited you to attend a meeting.
If
> you are now interested in learning more and possibly joining DAR check out
> the National Web Site at http://www.dar.org  From there you can contact
each
> different state and each state contact will be very happy to forward your
> information to your local chapter.
>
> If you are in Savannah, GA I would be delighted to invite you to my
Chapter
> which is Bonaventure Chapter.  We have a nice web page too.  Check it out.
> All chapter web pages can be accessed from the National Society.
>
> Faye
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James A. Miller, Jr. 
> To: [email protected] 
> Date: Monday, January 10, 2000 3:45 AM
> Subject: Re: DAR membership invitations
>
>
> >I had a relative that was not a Colonial Dame and I asked her why she was
> >not one like her grandmother was on her grandmother's lineage?  She said
> she
> >did not inherit the lineage papers, her aunt did and thus her cousin
became
> >a Dame. The value of lineage papers is in the information, it is not like
a
> >car title or land deed.  A decs. posession of the papers does not give
> right
> >of membership, nor lack of posession of the papers forestall membership.
> >The non-DAR/SAR/Dames public often has a fuzzy understanding of the
meaning
> >of the papers.  Jim, Charlotte, N.C.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: 
> >To: 
> >Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 1:43 AM
> >Subject: DAR membership invitations
> >
> >
> >> Does anyone know what the practice is re: invitations to going DAR?
When
> >I
> >> graduated from high school (way back in 1952) I received an invitation
to
> >> join DAR.  I had no idea what it was based on or, frankly, what DAR
was.
> >I
> >> was busy going off to school and did not respond.  Since I have grown
> >older,
> >> I have begun trying to do my genealogy and I would LOVE to know upon
whom
> >the
> >> invitation was based. I don't know if there is any way to find out at
> this
> >> late date!
> >>
> >> My lines are Bryant,  Perdue & Howell in VA, TN, KY;  Miller and Lamb
in
> >TN,
> >> KY and TX-OK;  Holland &  Snider in VA; Cantrell in SC, TN, MO; Fowler,
> >TN;  L
> >> egate in SC;  Thomasen in TN & MO.
> >>
> >> Betty Bryant Barker
> >>
> >> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 14:15:26 -0500
> >> From: ELIZABETH RUSSO 
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: Re: unacceptable sources
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, not all DAR members' files contain the "original fully
> >> documented applications."
> >>
> >> Several of my cousins who joined in the early 1900s on the basis of
some
> >> HARRIS ancestors (we supposedly have at least 4 Patriot direct
ancestors
> >> on our Harris side alone) just stated their genealogies.  I viewed
their
> >> records, both original and on microfilm, while at the DAR library with
> >> the aid of a wonderful staff person there. Most of my cousins' works do
> >> correspond to Boddie's Historical Southern Families, and to another
> >> publication.
> >>
> >> Once I learned that I could not just tie in to my cousins (the DAR has,
> >> thankfully, much higher standards for proof these days), I realized I
> >> had to start from scratch.
> >>
> >> Imagine my first surprise when I discovered a pension application and a
> >> will which stated that one of my alleged Patriot ancestors died with no
> >> mention of wife or children, and his sister was found to be next of kin
> >> for bounty warrant purposes.  Then my next surprise was that the widow
> >> of another one who was granted a pension was not even closely related.
> >> Both instances came after research at NARA.
> >>
> >> I have yet to prove that several in one line of ancestors that my
dearly
> >> departed DAR cousins "documented" even existed.  Not one shred of
> >> evidence for two of the generations (for whom they had not documented
> >> any spouses or siblings, either)--no land records, no tax records, no
> >> Bible records, no genealogies, no census records, no nothing.
> >>
> >> Now, my ancestors as my cousins laid them out may well have existed,
and
> >> they may well have been Patriots, but they hooked into the wrong lines
> >> for their proof.
> >>
> >> Having said all that, while I sorry to have to almost totally reinvent
> >> the wheel, and while I won't be joining the DAR as soon as I thought,
it
> >> certainly taught me more than a thing or two about trusting sources
(yes
> >> I use them, but as roadmaps) and about the value of doing my own
> >> research.  I'm having a ball doing the latter.  And by the way, the DAR
> >> library in Washington is in my top three favorite research spots in the
> >> world.  Usually, I rank it first.
> >>
> >> Elizabeth DuBois Russo
> >> An alleged descendant of at least 7 alleged Patriots.
> >>
> >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >>
> >
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> >
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> >
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