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Subject: Re: DAR membership invitations
From: Faye L. Dyess
Date: January 10, 2000
I have replied on the DAR question. Some of your information is very
confusing. You can inherit lineage paper with Colonial Dames of the XV11
Century, but that is certainly not the only way of joining. In fact today
most do not list for their papers to be inherited because they do not want
to limit when relatives may join.
If a person doesn't inherit papers that just submit their own!!
These organizations are working very hard to become more accessible and
encourage prospective members to fill out their lineage papers.
Below is my answer on DAR.DAR is a wonderful organization that is looking
for new members. Any member could have invited you to attend a meeting. If
you are now interested in learning more and possibly joining DAR check out
the National Web Site at http://www.dar.org From there you can contact each
different state and each state contact will be very happy to forward your
information to your local chapter.
If you are in Savannah, GA I would be delighted to invite you to my Chapter
which is Bonaventure Chapter. We have a nice web page too. Check it out.
All chapter web pages can be accessed from the National Society.
Faye
-----Original Message-----
From: James A. Miller, Jr.
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, January 10, 2000 3:45 AM
Subject: Re: DAR membership invitations
I had a relative that was not a Colonial Dame and I asked her why she was
>not one like her grandmother was on her grandmother's lineage? She said
she
>did not inherit the lineage papers, her aunt did and thus her cousin became
>a Dame. The value of lineage papers is in the information, it is not like a
>car title or land deed. A decs. posession of the papers does not give
right
>of membership, nor lack of posession of the papers forestall membership.
>The non-DAR/SAR/Dames public often has a fuzzy understanding of the meaning
>of the papers. Jim, Charlotte, N.C.
>----- Original Message -----
>From:
>To:
>Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 1:43 AM
>Subject: DAR membership invitations
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Does anyone know what the practice is re: invitations to going DAR? When
>I
graduated from high school (way back in 1952) I received an invitation to
join DAR. I had no idea what it was based on or, frankly, what DAR was.
>I
was busy going off to school and did not respond. Since I have grown
>older,
I have begun trying to do my genealogy and I would LOVE to know upon whom
>the
invitation was based. I don't know if there is any way to find out at
this
late date!
My lines are Bryant, Perdue & Howell in VA, TN, KY; Miller and Lamb in
>TN,
KY and TX-OK; Holland & Snider in VA; Cantrell in SC, TN, MO; Fowler,
>TN; L
egate in SC; Thomasen in TN & MO.
Betty Bryant Barker
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 14:15:26 -0500
From: ELIZABETH RUSSO
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: unacceptable sources
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Unfortunately, not all DAR members' files contain the "original fully
documented applications."
Several of my cousins who joined in the early 1900s on the basis of some
HARRIS ancestors (we supposedly have at least 4 Patriot direct ancestors
on our Harris side alone) just stated their genealogies. I viewed their
records, both original and on microfilm, while at the DAR library with
the aid of a wonderful staff person there. Most of my cousins' works do
correspond to Boddie's Historical Southern Families, and to another
publication.
Once I learned that I could not just tie in to my cousins (the DAR has,
thankfully, much higher standards for proof these days), I realized I
had to start from scratch.
Imagine my first surprise when I discovered a pension application and a
will which stated that one of my alleged Patriot ancestors died with no
mention of wife or children, and his sister was found to be next of kin
for bounty warrant purposes. Then my next surprise was that the widow
of another one who was granted a pension was not even closely related.
Both instances came after research at NARA.
I have yet to prove that several in one line of ancestors that my dearly
departed DAR cousins "documented" even existed. Not one shred of
evidence for two of the generations (for whom they had not documented
any spouses or siblings, either)--no land records, no tax records, no
Bible records, no genealogies, no census records, no nothing.
Now, my ancestors as my cousins laid them out may well have existed, and
they may well have been Patriots, but they hooked into the wrong lines
for their proof.
Having said all that, while I sorry to have to almost totally reinvent
the wheel, and while I won't be joining the DAR as soon as I thought, it
certainly taught me more than a thing or two about trusting sources (yes
I use them, but as roadmaps) and about the value of doing my own
research. I'm having a ball doing the latter. And by the way, the DAR
library in Washington is in my top three favorite research spots in the
world. Usually, I rank it first.
Elizabeth DuBois Russo
An alleged descendant of at least 7 alleged Patriots.
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