Some people must use so many words to say so little.
Faye

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> From: Steven J. Coker 
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: CORNELIUS family in SC prior to 1800
> Date: Monday, August 17, 1998 1:40 AM
> 
> Stan Cornelius wrote:
> > List managers provide a volunteer service that takes much time and
often
> > goes underappreciated by list members.  I do not agree with his
position
> > about research tools being off topic, and do not know if the bellsouth
> > system can download 22.5 megs in 1 minute as can cable connections, but
I
> > believe in his right to set the rules.  I will mention it here no more.
> 
> You are quite right about the amount of time spent. It quickly absorbs
vast
> quantities of time setting up and managing the Forum, solving email
problems of
> the participants, responding to people who want to argue about
everything,
> answering people who want me to help them with their research, creating
and
> editing the Forum web pages, setting up the Forum goodies spread around
the
> Internet, etc. Doing all this for the SCRoots Forum, the Coker Forum, and
the
> DuBose Forum has taken most of my free time for some months now. If I had
> realized the time required, I would never have accepted the position when
I was
> asked. 
> 
> Some of the most time consuming episodes I've had to deal with have been
> responding to Forum participant's complaints. In particular, complaints
> regarding inappropriate messages and commercial solicitations they've
received
> either through the Forum or privately from other Forum participants.
Thankfully,
> these complaint episodes are the exception and not the rule. But, when
one
> flares up, it can become a royal pain.
> 
> Regarding the "research tools" comment, you are of course welcome to your
> opinions regarding Internet Service Providers (ISPs). And, if you wish to
> discuss the topic outside of this forum, that is not my concern. However,
ISPs
> are not genealogy "research tools" and such discussions are OFF TOPIC in
the
> SCRoots forum. I think that I was quite clear about that in my previous
message. 
> 
> It usually is okay if someone makes an off-topic remark in the body of an
> overall on-topic message. But, announcements, commercial solicitations,
and
> messages that are completely off-topic are usually not acceptable and are
likely
> to draw reaction. If you feel strongly about spreading the cable service
gospel,
> you can put a short blurb about it in a tagline and attach it to every
on-topic
> message that you post in the forum.
> 
> I've posted links on the Help and FAQ section of the SCRoots web site
about how
> to find Internet Service Providers. I'll probably add more information
there
> about such topics. Also, ISPs are commercial operators and they do pretty
good
> marketing their services without our help. I'm confident that anyone with
cable
> TV service will receive promotional literature in their monthly bills
when it
> becomes available from their operator.
> 
> I have not researched recently all the Pro's and Con's of the various
"faster"
> Internet access options. Most are either unavailable here or they are not
within
> my budget. A few options I'm somewhat familiar with include:
> 
> * Installing T1 or T3 lines with suitable hardware. Much too expensive to
> consider.
> 
> * ISDN is now affordable and available in many places. Not as fast as
some
> others, but much faster than a regular modem.
> 
> * Satellite service options can provide high speed download, but a
regular land
> line modem connection is needed for uploading. 
> 
> * The cable TV modem option is said to give very fast, reliable service
for both
> downloading and uploading. If it was available here, I would have signed
up
> years ago. My memory is that the potential problem with Cable TV Internet
access
> is congestion. The speed of the service is said to be affected by the
number of
> users online. I believe I read that if too many users signup and go
online, then
> the high speeds may slow down significantly. 
> 
> * Asymmetric Digital Subscriber Line (ADSL) technology is being promoted
by
> BellSouth and other phone companies these days. They say that it will
provide
> high speed Internet access using existing copper telephone lines at up to
50
> times faster than 28k modems. ADSL allows information to travel at speeds
up to
> 1.5 Mbps from the provider to the user, and up to 256 kbps from the user
to the
> provider.
> 
> I'll take whatever I can get, as soon as I can get it. I've had a 56k
modem for
> about two years and have never been able to get better than a 28k
connection.
> 
> Now, like I said before.  This is OFF-TOPIC and the SCRoots Forum is not
an
> appropriate place for this discussion.
> 
> Steven J. Coker
> SCRoots Manager
> 
> A few links on Internet services options.
> http://www.56k.com/isps/
> http://www.modemhelp.com/
> http://think.atr.net/adsl.html
> http://www.ucalgary.ca/library/access97/wiggins/index.htm
> http://www.teleport.com/~samc/cable5.html
> http://www.digitalsat.com/dpcndata.html
> http://www.zdnet.com/products/content/pcmg/1615/pcmg0132.html
> http://www.cabledatacomnews.com/
> http://www.modemshop.com/resources.html
>
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