Vol II File 23: The Paternal Ancestry of Homer Beers James
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Vol II File 23: The Paternal Ancestry of Homer Beers James
35. Saye - Mandeville Line (Earls of Essex)
Ref: Wurts: pp. 100-101, 125-126.
1. William de Saye, came to England with
William the Conqueror. He had a son, William.
2. William de Saye, also had a son, William.
2. William de Saye, Lord de Saye, married
(as her second husband) Beatrix Mandeville, only
daughter of Geoffrey de Mandevilla, who obtained as his share
of the spoils of the Norman Conquest many valuable manors in a
dozen English counties, and seated himself at Waldene. He was
made constable of the Tower of London for life. Her mother was
Margaret, only daughter of Eudo, steward for Normandy. One account
has Geoffrey de Mandeville married to Rohese Vere. Check this. Beatrix was married (1) to Hugh
de Talbot, Lord Talbot, from whom she was divorced. William and
Beatrix had the following children:
1. William de Saye, eldest son. See below.
2. Geoffrey de Saye, whose son Geoffrey
de Saye, was one of the sureties of the Magna Charta.
3. William de Saye, died in his father's
lifetime leaving as his only child, a daughter, Beatrix. He was
an ancestor of the Surety Geoffrey de Mandeville, and of Maud,
wife of Surety Henry de Bohun......See page 125-126 of Wurts.
4. Beatrix Saye, married (as his first
wife) Geoffrey (Peter) FitzPiers,
who became Baron Mandeville, in right of his wife.
She was a first cousin to Geoffrey de Saye,
the Surety. Geoffrey (Peter) FitzPiers was made Justiciar of
England by King Richard I., and was created Earl of Essex by King
John on May 27, 1199. He died October 14, 1213. They had the
1. Maud FitzPiers.
2. William de Mandeville, Earl of Essex.
He, like his deceased kinsman, espoused the cause of the barons,
and maintained it even after the decease of King John; being one
of those who assisted Louis of France, in the siege of the Berkhamstead
Castle, occupied by the king's forces. He made his peace soon
after, for we find him engaged in the Welsh wars. He died in
his early years on December 25, 1227, and as he left no issue,
the Earldom of Essex devolved upon his sister, Maud, Countess
of Hereford (See the Bohun Line in Volume II.), while the lands
he inherited passed to his half-brother, John FitzPiers. Sheriff
of Yorkshire, who married Isabel Bigod, and whose son was John
Fitz-John Fitz-Geoffrey, whose son, John Fitz-John, was summoned
to parliament as a Baron, in the time of King Henry III.
3. Geoffrey de Mandeville, the Surety.
Upon payment to King John of twenty thousands marks, he obtained
in 1214, license to marry Avisa (Isabella) Meullent, daughter
of William Meullent, Count of Meullent, which lady had been the
wife of King John himself, but was repudiated in 1200 on account
of consanguity, both being great-grandchildren of King Henry I.
Her second husband, having died two years after their marriage,
Isabella was promised in marriage to Hubert de Burgh, but his
was not accomplished and she died without issue. In the right
of his wife, Geoffrey de Mandeville became the Earl of Gloucester,
and was placed in full possession of all the liberties belonging
to this earldom, and the lordship of Glamorgan, in Wales. He
was one of the wealthiest of the barons opposed to King John,
and for adhering to them he was excommunicated, but lived only
a short time, as in February 1216, he was mortally wounded in
a tournament in London and dying on February 23, 1216, without
issue, was interred in the priory of the Holy Trinity, in the
suburbs of the city. He was succeeded by his brother, William
de Mandeville, who also took the part of the barons, and maintained
it even after the death of King John, being one of those who then
assisted Louis of France in the siege of Berkhamstead Castle,
occupied by the king's forces. William died without issue January
8, 1227, when the earldom of Essex devolved upon his sister, Maud,
wife of Henry de Bohun, Countess of Hereford, while the lands
that he inherited passed to his half-brother, John FitzGeoffrey,
whose wife was Isabel Bigod, widow of Gilbert de Lacy and daughter
of Hugh Bigod, the Surety.
5. Maud FitzPiers, married Henry de Bohun, the Surety of the Magna
Charta. She was the sister of Geoffrey de Mandeville, the Surety.
See continuation of this lineage in the Bohun
The following is extracted from Burke, pp.
1. Geoffrey de Magnavil
2. William de Magnavil, corrupted into
Mandeville, married Margaret Rie Dapifer, daughter
and heiress of Eudo de Rie Dapifer, Steward to King William for
Normandy. He had the following two
1. Geoffrey de Mandeville, Senior, was made
1st Earl of Essex by King Stephen. He had the following children:
1. Ernulph de Mandeville, d.s.p., succeeded
by his brother, Geoffrey.
2. Geoffrey de Mandeville, Junior, 2nd Earl
of Essex, d.s.p., also.
3. William de Mandeville, 3rd Earl of Essex,
married (1) Hawise le Gros, daughter and heiress of William le
Gros, Earl of Albermerle, and (2) Christian FitzWalter (daughter
of Richard FitzWalter, Lord FitzWalter), who married after the
death of William, Raymond De Burgh. There was no issue by either
wife. He died in 1190, and his earldom devolved upon his
2. Beatrix Mandeville, married (1) Hugh Talbot,
from whom, she was divorced; and (2) William de Saye. See the continuation
of this lineage above in this Saye-Mandeville Line.
36. St. Liz Line (Earl of Northampton and Northumberland)
The county which gave designation to the earldom
of Huntingdon was, according to Dr. Heylin, a thickly wooded forest,
until the reign of the 2nd Henry, when the timber was first cleared
away; the chief town, from the celebrity of the forest as a chase,
was called Huntingtown, which soon became Huntington, or Huntingdon.
The earldom of Huntingdon was conferred, by William the Conqueror,
37. Segrave Line
Saxon Earl of Northumberland, was the father of Waltheof.
the daughter of William the Conqueror's sister, by the mother's
side. He was also the Earl of Northampton, and of Northumberland;
but conspiring against the Normans, he was beheaded, in 1073,
at Winchester, leaving the following children:
2. Judith, married (1) Ralph de Toney, and
afterwards to Robert, 5th son of Richard de Tonbridge, ancestor
of the Lords FitzWalter.
After the execution of Waltheof, King William
offered Judith, his niece, the deceased earl's widow, in marriage
to Simon St. Liz, a noble Norman, but the lady peremptorily rejected
the alliance, owing, Dugdale says, to St. Liz's halting in
one leg; which refusal so displeased the Conqueror, that he
immediately seized upon the castle and honor of Huntingdon, which
the Countess held in dower, exposing herself and her daughter
to a state of privation and obscurity in the Isle of Ely, and
other places; while he bestowed upon the said Simon St. Liz the
town of Northampton, and the whole hundred of Falkeley, then valued
at 40 pounds per annum, to provide shoes for his horses.
St. Liz thus disappointed in obtaining the hand of the Countess
of Huntingdon, made his addresses, with greater success, to her
elder daughter, the Lady Maud, who became his wife.
married (1) Simon de St. Liz,
and (2) David, brother of Alexander, King of Scotland. Simon
de St. Liz was given the honor of the Earldoms of Huntingdon and
Northampton by King William. He built the castle of Northampton,
as also the priory of St. Andrews there, about the 18th year of
the Conqueror's reign, and was a liberal benefactor to the church.
He was a witness to King Henry I.'s laws in 1100, after which
he made a voyage to the Holy Land, and died on his return In 1115,
at the Abbey of Charity, In France. He and his wife, Maud, had
the following children:
1. Simon de St. Liz, who succeeded to the
Earldom of Northampton, but was excluded from that of Huntingdon.
He was subsequently, however, restored.
2. Waltheof de St. Liz, Abbot of Melrus,
3. Maud St. Liz, married (1) Robert de Tonbridge,
son of Richard de Tonbridge; and (2) William de Albini, according
to Dugdale; but Hornby, in his remarks on Dugdale's errors, proves
that such alliances, if not impossible, were very improbable.
A Maud de St. Liz
is mentioned as wife of Saier de Quincy, being father and mother
of Saier, 1st Earl of Winchester. Burke so states in his description
of the Quincy family. See the continuation
of this lineage in the Quincy Line.
Upon the death of Simon de St. Liz, Earl of
Huntingdon and Northampton, his elder son, Simon, should have
succeeded to both dignities, but it appears he only inherited
the former. The Earldom of Huntingdon being assumed by David,
son of Malcolm III,
King of Scotland, who had married the deceased earl's widow, the
under the especial sanction of King Henry I. This nobleman succeeded
to the Scottish throne, on the decease of Alexander, his elder
brother, in 1124; and invading England, was met upon the border
by King Stephen, when their differences were amicably adjusted;
and Henry of Scotland,
son of the said David,
King of Scotland, on condition of swearing allegiance to Stephen,
had the Earldom and honor of Huntingdon, with the borough of Doncaster
and Carlisle as an augmentation thereof. He married Ada Warren, sister of William de Warren,
Earl of Warren and Surrey (See Burke, pg. 468).
See the continuation of this lineage in the
Scottish Kings Line of Volume I.
Ref: Burke, pp. 484-486.
1. Gilbert de Segrave, Lord of Segrave,
co. Leicester (whence he assumed his surname) in the 12th year
of King Henry II., held the fourth part of one knight's fee of
William de Newburgh, Earl of Warwick, and in the 4th year of King
Richard I., he was joint sheriff with Reginald Basset, for the
cos. of Warwick and Leicester, under Hugh de Novant, Bishop of
Coventry, in which office he continued two whole years. He subsequently,
in the 10th year of King Richard I., gave 400 marks to the king
towards the support of his wars. This Gilbert was succeeded by
his son, Stephen.
2. Stephen de Segrave, who in the 5th
year of King John, was Constable of the Tower of London, and remained
faithful to that monarch in his conflicts with the barons, obtained
a grant in the 17th year of John of the lands of Stephen de Gant,
lying in the cos. of Lincoln and Leicester, with the manor of
Kintone, co. Warwick. In the 4th year of King Henry III., he
was made Governor of Saubey Castle, Leicestershire, and the next
year constituted Sheriff of the cos. of Essex and Hertford, and
afterwards Leicestershire. In the 8th year of the same reign,
he was Governor of the Castle of Hertford, and in two years after,
one of the Justices Itinerant in the cos. Nottingham and Derby.
About this period we find this successful person, whom Matthew
Paris says, in his young days " from a clerk was made
a knight," acquiring large landed property by purchase.
In the 13th year of King Henry III., he bought the manor of Cotes,
in the co. Derby, from the daughters and heirs of Stephen de Beauchamp,
and he afterwards purchased from Ranulph, Earl of Chester and
Lincoln, all the lands which that nobleman possessed at Mount
Sorrell, co. Leicester, without the castle; as also two carucates
and a half lying at Segrave, which himself and his ancestors had
previously held at the rent of 14 shilling per year. In the 16th
year of Henry III., he obtained a grant of the custody of the
castle and county of Northampton, as also of the cos. Bedford,
Buckingham, Warwick, and Leicester, for the term of his life.;
taking the whole profit of all those shires for his support in
that service; expecting the ancient farms, which had usually been
paid into the exchequer. And, having been of the king's council
for several years, as also Chief Justice of the Common Pleas,
he succeeded in the 16th year of Henry III., Hubert de Burgh in
the great office of Justiciary of England, being at the same time
constituted Governor of Dover, Canterbury, Rochester, etc., and
Constable of the Tower of London. After this we find him, however,
opposed by the bishops and barons, and his manor house at Segrave
burned to the ground by the populace, as well as another mansion
in the co. Huntingdon. The king, too, in this perilous crisis,
deserted him, and cited him, along with Peter de Rupibu, Bishop
of Winchester, and others who had been in power, to appear forthwith
at court in order to answer any charge regarding the wasting of
the public treasure, which might be preferred against them. Some
of those persons, conscious of guilt, fled to sanctuary, and Stephen
de Segrave sought asylum in the abbey of Leicester, where he openly
declared that he was and had been a priest, and that he resolved
to shave his crown again to be a canon of that house. Nevertheless
upon second thoughts, he braved the storm, and appeared at court,
under the archbishop's protection; where the king called him a
wicked traitor, and told him that it was under his advise
that he had displaced Hubert de Burgh from the office of Justiciary,
and cast that eminent person into prison; nay, that had he gone
the length of his council, Hubert would have been hanged,
and divers of the nobility banished. In twelve months subsequently,
however, Stephen de Segrave made his peace by paying 1000 marks
to the king, and he afterwards grew again into such favor, that
in the 21st year of Henry III., he was the means of reconciling
the king with some of his most hostile barons. Subsequently,
he was made Justice of Chester, and the king's Chief Councilor,
and "being now," says Dugdale, "advanced in years,
deported himself by experience of former times, with much more
temper and moderation than heretofore." This eminent person
married (1) Rohese Despencer, daughter
of Thomas le Despencer, and (2) Ida
Hastings, sister of Henry de Hastings, with whom he had in frank-marriage,
the manor of Bruneswaver, co. Warwick. Of Stephen de Segrave,
so distinguished in the reign of Henry III., Matthew Paris, thus
speaks, "This Stephen, though come of no high parentage,
was in his youth, of a clerk made a knight; and in his latter
days, through his prudence and valor, so exalted, that he had
the reputation of one of the chief men of the realm, managing
the greatest affairs as he pleased. In doing whereof, he more
minded his own profit than the common good; yet for some good
deeds, and making a discreet testament, he died with much honor."
He died in 1241, and was succeeded by his son, Gilbert.
3. Gilbert de Segrave. This feudal lord
married Annabil Chaucumbe,
daughter and co-heir of Robert de
Chaucumbe, obtained a grant in the
15th year of King Henry III., from Simon de Montfort, Lord of
Leicester, of the whole town of Kegworth, co. Leicester, and in
two years after, had a grant from the crown, of the manor of Newcastle-under-Lyme,
co. Stafford; being the same year constituted Governor of Bolsover
Castle. In the 26th year of Henry III., he was made Justice of
all the royal forests, south of Trent, and Governor of Kenilworth
Castle. In the 35th year of the same reign, he was constituted
one of the justices of Oyer and Terminer, in the city of London,
to hear and determine all such causes as had usually been tried
before the justice itinerant, at the Tower of London. But in
three years afterwards, being deputed, with Roger Bigod, Earl
Marshal, on an embassy, was treacherously seized (along with John
de Plassets, Earl of Warwick, and divers others of the English
nobility,) by the French, as he was returning, and died within
a short period, sometime in 1254, of the severe treatment he had
received in prison. He was succeeded by his son, Nicholas.
4. Nicholas de Segrave, who, in the 43rd
year of King Henry II., attended that monarch into France, but
soon after espoused the cause of the barons, and became one of
their most active leaders. In the 47th year of King Henry III.'s
reign, he was among those who appeared openly in arms, and fortified
Northampton, for which proceeding, his lands were seized by the
crown. Upon the subsequent fall of Northampton to the royalists,
Nicholas de Segrave fled to London, where the citizens having
raised a large army for the barons, made him their general. At
the head of this force, he marched with Gilbert de Clare, and
Henry de Hastings, to the siege of Rochester, and thence to Lewes,
at which place, the celebrated battle, so disastrous to the king,
commenced, by a charge made by Segrave, at the head of the Londoners;
in this, however, he was defeated by Prince Edward, who, flushed
with success, pursued his advantage too far, and thus mainly contributed
to the defeat which the royal arms sustained. The issue of this
battle is well known. The king, Prince Edward, and the chief
of their adherents became prisoners to the rebels, who followed
up their triumph, by immediately summoning a parliament in the
king's name, to which Nicholas de Segrave was summoned as Baron
Segrave, on December 24, 1264. But the tide soon ebbing, he was
among the defeated at Evesham, where he was wounded and made prisoner.
He was, however, admitted to the benefit of the Dictum de Kenilworth,
and obtained a full pardon, with restoration of his lands, which
had been seized. In four years afterwards, he attended Prince
Edward to the Holy Land, and when that prince ascended the throne,
he appears to have enjoyed a large share of royal favor. In the
4th year of Edward's reign, he was with the king in a campaign
against the Welsh, and was subsequently employed in Scotland and
Ireland, having had a second summons to parliament, June 25, 1295.
He married Maud de Lucy. They had the following
5. John de Segrave, 2nd Baron Segrave,
was born in 1256, summoned to parliament, from August 26, 1296,
to May 6, 1325. This nobleman, in the life time of his father,
having been taken prisoner in the wars of Scotland, in the 9th
year of Edward I., obtained from the king, in consideration of
his services there, the grant of 100 pounds towards the liquidation
of his ransom. He was subsequently much engaged in the Scottish
wars, and in the 24th year of the same reign was Constable of
the English army in that country. The next year he was by indenture
retained to serve Roger Bigod, Earl of Norfolk, with six knights,
himself accounted, as well in time of peace as in war, for the
term of his whole life, in England, Wales, and Scotland. For
the performance of this covenant he had a grant of the manor of
Lodene, co. Norfolk. In the 26th year of Edward I., he was again
in Scotland, and had a principal command at the battle of Falkirk.
In three years after, he obtained license to make a castle at
his manor house, of Bretteby, co. Derby, and he was next constituted
Governor of Berwick-upon-Tweed, as also warden of Scotland. Subsequently
we find him with King Edward I. at the siege of Caerlaverock.
After the accession of Edward II., he was again made warden of
Scotland, and within a short time, attending the king into that
usual theater of war, was among those beaten in the great defeat
sustained by the English army at Bannockburn, and was made prisoner
by the Scots, who detained him for a year, until he was exchanged
for Thomas de Moram, and other prisoners of that realm, who were
incarcerated in London. His lordship eventually lost his life
in Gascony, where he was sent by the king, who had conceived some
displeasure against him, for the escape of Roger Mortimer out
of the Tower of London, under pretense of defending those parts,
with Edmund, Earl of Kent, and others, where, being a great mortality,
he died in 1325. He married in 1270 Christian Plessetis, daughter
of Hugh de Plessetis, Knight. They
had the following children:
6. Stephen de Segrave, the companion in
arms of his gallant father in the Scottish wars, but in the 12th
year of Edward II., one of the partisans of Thomas, Earl of Lancaster,
yet submitting himself, he obtained his pardon, and in the 16th
year of Edward II., was made Constable of the Tower of London.
In the 18th year of Edward II., he attended his father into Gascony,
and died there, while his father was still living. He married
Alice of Arundel
and they had the following children: