Group 3

Group 3 Anglins and Anglens

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Contents

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Summary of Participants

All of the people in Group 3 are obviously closely related, and although we have gaps in some of the lineages, all of the participants in Group 3, with the exception of A44, are descendants of Adrian Anglin, who died in Buckingham County, Virginia, in 1777. The group includes: A44 is our first member of Group 3 who is not descended from Adrian Anglin. A44's immigrant ancestor came to America from Ireland in 1913, and thus it is A44 who gives Adrian's descendants their first Old World connection.

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Summary of Findings

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Gaps in Lineages

DNA tells us these lines are descendants of Adrian Anglin, but we don't know the exact connection. I hope to make a page for each line, with everything we can find out about the earliest ancestor following the gap. With a concerted effort we may be able to close, or at least narrow, some of these gaps. The earliest known ancestor after the gaps are:

See the mutation/lineage chart for our participants with gaps.

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Test Results for Markers 1 - 37
    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37  
    DYS Numbers  
ID Ancestor 3
9
3		 3
9
0		 1
9
*		 3
9
1		 3
8
5
a		 3
8
5
b		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 3
8
9
i		 3
9
2		 3
8
9
i
i		 4
5
8		 4
5
9
a		 4
5
9
b		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 4
6
4
a		 4
6
4
b		 4
6
4
c		 4
6
4
d		 4
6
0		 G
A
T
A
H
4		 Y
C
A
II
a		 Y
C
A
II
b		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 C
D
Y
a		 C
D
Y
b		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 More Markers
Group 3:       Adrian Anglin, b. 1693, d. 1777 Buckingham Co., VA   •    Francis Anglin, b. Ireland abt 1873
SNP-tested haplogroup R1b1b2a1a2f* (R-L21*) and predicted to belong to the L513 subclade of R-L21 (confirmation needed)
A9 Philip 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 35 41 12 12  
A10 Philip 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 35 41 12 12  
A35 Joshua 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 35 41 12 12  
A41 Adrian 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 35 41 12 12  
A12 Adrian 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 14 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 15 18 16 35 41 12 12  
A28 Adrian 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 34 40 12 12  
A43 Daniel 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 35 41 12 12  
A3 Daniel 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 34 41 12 12 →
A37 Daniel 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 12 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 35 41 13 12  
A53 George 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 35 41 12 12  
A51 John 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 35 41 12 12  
A59 John 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 35 41 12 12  
A50 John 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 34 41 12 12  
A40 John 13 23 15 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 19 16 35 41 12 12  
A7 William 13 23 14 10 10 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 35 41 12 12  
A14 William 13 23 14 10 10 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 35 41 12 12  
A18 William 13 23 14 10 10 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 35 41 12 12  
A52 William 13 23 14 10 10 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 35 41 12 12 →
A63 William 13 23 14 10 10 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 35 42 12 12  
A46 William 13 23 14 10 10 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 23 23 16 15 18 16 35 41 12 12  
A27 William 13 23 14 10 10 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 15 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 35 41 12 12  
A25 William 13 23 14 10 10 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 17 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 35 41 12 12  
A4 William 13 23 14 10 10 15 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 35 41 12 12  
A69 William 13 23 14 10 10 14 12 12 11 14 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 34 41 12 12 →
A48 William 13 23 14 10 10 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 9 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 17 15 18 16 35 35 11 12  
A23 Philip (1810) 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 11 14 13 29 16 9 10 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 36 41 12 12  
A44 Francis 13 23 14 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 28 16 9 9 11 11 26 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 15 18 16 35 42 12 12  
                                                                               
ID Ancestor 3
9
3		 3
9
0		 1
9
*		 3
9
1		 3
8
5
a		 3
8
5
b		 4
2
6		 3
8
8		 4
3
9		 3
8
9
i		 3
9
2		 3
8
9
i
i		 4
5
8		 4
5
9
a		 4
5
9
b		 4
5
5		 4
5
4		 4
4
7		 4
3
7		 4
4
8		 4
4
9		 4
6
4
a		 4
6
4
b		 4
6
4
c		 4
6
4
d		 4
6
0		 G
A
T
A
H
4		 Y
C
A
II
a		 Y
C
A
II
b		 4
5
6		 6
0
7		 5
7
6		 5
7
0		 C
D
Y
a		 C
D
Y
b		 4
4
2		 4
3
8		 More Markers

Mutations from the ancestral haplotype are shown in bold type.
Participants with no mutations indicated have the ancestral haplotype, i.e. the same haplotype as Adrian, the earliest known common ancestor.
Participants with results for more than 37 markers have an arrow to the right of their first 37 markers. Click on the arrow to see the rest of their results.

Test Results for Markers 38 - 111

    38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 103 108 109 110 111
    DYS Numbers
ID Ancestor 5
3
1		 5
7
8		 3
9
5
S
1
a		 3
9
5
S
1
b		 5
9
0		 5
3
7		 6
4
1		 4
7
2		 4
0
6
S
1		 5
1
1		 4
2
5		 4
1
3
a		 4
1
3
b		 5
5
7		 5
9
4		 4
3
6		 4
9
0		 5
3
4		 4
5
0		 4
4
4		 4
8
1		 5
2
0		 4
4
6		 6
1
7		 5
6
8		 4
8
7		 5
7
2		 6
4
0		 4
9
2		 5
6
5		 7
1
0		 4
8
5		 6
3
2		 4
9
5		 5
4
0		 7
1
4		 7
1
6		 7
1
7		 5
0
5		 5
5
6		 5
4
9		 5
8
9		 5
2
2		 4
9
4		 5
3
3		 6
3
6		 5
7
5		 6
3
8		 4
6
2		 4
5
2		 4
4
5		 Y
-
G
A
T
A
-
A
1
0		 4
6
3		 4
4
1		 Y
Y
-
G
G
A
A
T
-
1
B
0
7		 5
2
5		 7
1
2		 5
9
3		 6
5
0		 5
3
2		 7
1
5		 5
0
4		 5
1
3		 5
6
1		 5
5
2		 7
2
6		 6
3
5		 5
8
7		 6
4
3		 4
9
7		 5
1
0		 4
3
4		 4
6
1		 4
3
5
Group 3
A3 Daniel 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 11 10 12 22 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 12 23 20 13 13 11 13 11 11 12 11 34 15 9 18 12 24 27 19 12 11 13 12 11 9 12 12 10 11 11 31 12 12 23 13 10 10 20 15 19 14 24 17 12 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 9 12 11
A52 William 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 11 10 12 22 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 12 23 20 13 13 11 13 11 11 12 11                                                                                        
A69 William 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 11 10 12 22 23 16 10 12 12 16 8 12 23 20 13 13 11 13 11 11 12 11 34 15 9 18 12 24 27 19 12 11 13 12 11 9 12 12 10 11 11 31 12 12 23 13 10 10 20 15 19 14 24 17 12 15 24 12 23 18 10 14 17 8 12 11
                                                                                                                                                       


Mutations and Lineages

The chart above shows our Group 3 participants whose lines are known, along with any mutations. We know the haplotype for each person whose name is in dark blue. We need to test more people to ascertain the haplotypes of those whose names are in lighter blue. The only mutation for which we have determined the generational event is Adrian's son William's mutation to 10 at DYS 385a. I have placed the notation of that mutation in the chart to show where it occurred (i.e. when Adrian begot William), and we can expect everyone in William's line to have that mutation. We know, therefore, that A27's William is a descendant of Adrian's son William. That helps us narrow the gap in A27's lineage considerably.

Where I've noted a mutation below a participant's identification number, we don't know the generation in which it occurred; we only know that it occurred between the participant and his most recent ancestor whose name is in dark blue.

To establish where the mutations listed along the bottom of the chart occurred, we would want to test a descendant of a brother of the highest person in the line whose name is in light blue.

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The chart above shows our Group 3 participants with gaps in their lineages. Again, the haplotypes of those in dark blue are known; the haplotypes of those in light blue are unknown. Because A27 has the telltale mutation which occurred when Adrian begot William, we know A27 must be descended from William. This chart shows Joseph, Adrian's youngest son, who was in the South Carolina census in 1800 with a young man in his household. We have never been able to identify any sons of Joseph, and it could well be that one or more of our participants with gaps is his descendant.

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Descendants' Chart

The chart below shows only the direct lines of the participants in Group 3,
but omits those whose exact connection is yet unknown.